Lazarus 1

Lazarus 2


From: Deborah
Date: Tue Apr 13, 2004 3:21 pm
Subject: Lazarus

I finished reading:

Rudolf Steiner. The Gospel of St. John. Revised Edition. Spring Valley, N.Y.: Anthroposophic Press, 1962, 1973.

p. 64

"The individuality Lazarus had to be initiated in such a way that he could be a witness of the spiritual worlds. An expression is used, a very significant expression in the language of the Mysteries, 'that the Lord loved Lazarus.' What does 'to love' mean in the language of the Mysteries? It expresses the relationship of the pupil to the teacher. 'He whom the Lord loved' is the most intimate, the most deeply initiated pupil. The Lord Himself had initiated Lazarus and as an initiate Lazarus arose from the grame, which means from his place of initiation. This same expression 'Whom the Lord loved' is always used later in connection with John, or perhaps we should say in connection with the writer of the Gospel of St. John, for the name 'John' is not used. He is the 'Beloved Disciple' to whom the Gospel refers. He is the risen Lazarus himself and the writer of the Gospel wished to say:--'What I have to offer, I say by virtue of the initiation which has been conferred upon me by the Lord Himself.' Therefore the writer of the Gospel distinguishes between what occurred before and what occurred after the raising of Lazarus."

After reading through all the lectures I find myself puzzled by Lazarus. He is a name, and only a name. John has some reality, so does Mary Magdalene (see page 187) for example, but Lazarus, is just a word. Very odd. I'm going to read the Gospel next to see if there is someone there. I do not have any special sort of perception and I would never have spotted this if Dottie (thank you!) hadn't pointed to it.

Deborah

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From: dottie zold
Date: Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:14 pm
Subject: Re: Lazarus

After reading through all the lectures I find myself puzzled by Lazarus. He is a name, and only a name. John has some reality, so does Mary Magdalene (see page 187) for example, but Lazarus, is just a word. Very odd. I'm going to read the Gospel next to see if there is someone there. I do not have any special sort of perception and I would never have spotted this if Dottie (thank you!) hadn't pointed to it.

Hi Deborah,

The word Lazarus means 'the one whom God helps'. I have traced this back to two people of the OT: one being Miriam, Moses sister when turned into a leper, and the second one being Elisha, lover of Elijah.

And, yes, I too have found 'him' to be only a name. I can not find him nor contact nor sense him in the spiritual worlds as I can others. There is a void. An empty waiting.

The most intimate member of his initiates was Magdalene. IF one reads the Nag Hammadi there can be no doubt. Or at least I do not know how one can not come to this conclusion if one takes in the whole works pertaining to the Apostles.

Another thought comes to mind though, why is not Magdalene mentioned at the Pentacost? Why is it that it is only Mother Mary and 'the other women'...up until then it was always Magdalene that was the prominant one of the women, even when put with Mother Mary.

When you are finished reading the John lecture cycle it would be interesting to hear your thoughts on the Fifth Gospel.

Gotta run,

Dottie

p.s. That felt good.

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