Charlatan's Ways

 

From: VALENTINA BRUNETTI
Date: Mon Feb 23, 2004 4:25 am
Subject: Charlatan's ways

Charlatan's ways.

Dear list

like everyone involved in the attempt to demonstrate that black is white and white is black the charlatan uses some tricks, well known by historians' of philosophers' quarrels researchers.

(It's a technique pretty similar to the one used by Shoah's "denialists" )

If you note well, not only on the list but also following his writings he uses to pervert the truth in the following ways:

1) He minimizes the facts the are in harsh contradictions with his thesis . He did so, for instance, talking about Hitler's article on Steiner (1921) or about the Nazi-volkisch attempt to kill RS (1922) and most of all about the "strange" facts that Nazi in 1935 banned out GAS, after having carefully investigated and rejected some Anthroposophy's basic issues.

2)He emphasized , out of general context some pretty marginal issue, for instance 1880's RS's "pangermanism" (it should have been better if he were a supporter of mummified Absburg's Emperors...)- (I have also an occult-based, secret information to give: the first world Steiner told at the age of 14 months was " Deutschland!!")

3) In his perverted game he uses as supports over and over historians and writers who got in their brains the same kind of materialistic prejudices like him, aka the infamous Webb or the more respectable Poliakov, in order to give strength to his feeble thesis.

4) He invents at all some historical fantasy like the one about "green wing" into NSDAP , (There never has been something like this-like every historian knows- but only some tendencies toward "good farming", that demonstrates that , if "Nazi too", appreciates biodynamic , wow it really fits!!)

5) Most of all: he has no actual knowledge and no credential about Steiner's worldwiew and, most of all again , no will or capacity to enter this world having built all his weltanschauung upon politically oriented prejudices.

Can we say now that. discussing with such a faggot, we are losing our time ?

NO....

Hi. people what a good example of "Ahrimanic deception" is this!

Andrea

Don Pedro

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From: Tarjei Straume
Date: Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:52 am
Subject: Fags and faggots (was: Charlatan's ways)

At 13:25 23.02.2004, Andrea wrote:

Can we say now that. discussing with such a faggot, we are losing our time ?

Reminds me of decades ago when I moved to the U.S after being accustomed to British English, and I had to learn that you didn't get pissed by drinking too much beer or liquor but by something making you angry, and that you didn't ask someone for a fag when you were out of cigarettes.

Which reminds me, faggot is a derogatory term against gays used by homophobes. I don't know if Peter S is gay or "straight" or bisexual, but whatever his sexual orientation may be, it's beyond the scope of this thread's topic.

We may discuss homophilia and homophobia and gay lifestyles gay-bashing and what have you in a separate thread, but it wouldn't be any fun without some tough religious right-wingers, most of whom stick to other lists like that of Starman, for instance.

What I'm trying to say is that it's not necessary to insult gay people in order to take a punch at an individual contributor. We don't seem to have a rule against ad hominems here, but you're going to use one, it's a good idea to choose an ad hominem that is relevant to the argument and the topic at hand.

Incidentally, here are some guides to flaming:

http://www.albion.com/netiquette/book/0963702513p71.html

http://www.advicemeant.com/flame/

http://www.firelily.com/humor/rants/danger.html

Cheers,

Tarjei
http://uncletaz.com/

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From: Frank Thomas Smith
Date: Mon Feb 23, 2004 12:04 pm
Subject: RE: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Fags and faggots (was: Charlatan's ways)

C'mon, Tarjei, you're sounding like Dan D. Anyway, Andrea is innocent. He was mentally translating from the Italian "fagotto" = bassoon. Anything wrong with calling Don Pedro a bassoon?

What I'm trying to say is that it's not necessary to insult gay people in order to take a punch at an individual contributor. We don't seem to have a rule against ad hominems here, but you're going to use one, it's a good idea to choose an ad hominem that is relevant to the argument and the topic at hand.

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From: Tarjei Straume
Date: Mon Feb 23, 2004 1:20 pm
Subject: RE: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Fags and faggots (was: Charlatan's ways)

At 21:04 23.02.2004, Frank wrote:

C'mon, Tarjei, you're sounding like Dan D.

I don't mind that. He's a courteous gentleman for the most part.

Anyway, Andrea is innocent. He was mentally translating from the Italian "fagotto" = bassoon. Anything wrong with calling Don Pedro a bassoon?

I guess not - I just need to brush up on my Italian :)

Tarjei

Don Pedro

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