Fwd: grateful graduate
From: golden3000997
Date: Tue Feb 24, 2004 7:34 pm
Subject: Fwd: grateful graduate
I think that this person's quote:
What I can say for sure
is that I am incredibly grateful to have had this education.
I feel it has given me faculties and capacities that I would
not have gained in mainstream education. I feel that my inherent
gifts have been developed and nurtured through this system, and
I feel a sense of inner freedom from all external influences
- be they cultural, religious, national or whatever. To have
the capacity to think independently, and the courage and capacity
to follow these through to fruition is the greatest gift that
any education can give to a child.
is relevant to our ongoing discussion of the
moment.
Christine
From: Dan Dugan
Date: Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:54 am
Subject: grateful graduate
To: waldorf-critics@topica.com
Sarah Benson, thanks for writing
to us. Your subject-less message almost went out with the spam!
This reply is being posted
on the waldorf-critics discussion list, and I invite you to subscribe
and engage in a discussion about the points you raise.
Hullo
I'm a 52 year-old ex-Steiner school pupil from England. I now
live and work in Australia.
What school did you go to?
What grades?
I've just discovered your
critique of the Waldorf system on the net and have printed it
off.
Surely you only printed parts
of it...
After a quick skim through,
I find that some of the criticisms are valid, and others are
based perhaps on a lack of understanding as to what the schools
are trying to achieve.
I would appreciate hearing
what you think is based on misunderstanding.
What I can say for sure
is that I am incredibly grateful to have had this education.
I feel it has given me faculties and capacities that I would
not have gained in mainstream education. I feel that my inherent
gifts have been developed and nurtured through this system, and
I feel a sense of inner freedom from all external influences
- be they cultural, religious, national or whatever. To have
the capacity to think independently, and the courage and capacity
to follow these through to fruition is the greatest gift that
any education can give to a child.
How do you think that happened?
What aspects of the curriculum or pedagogy do you think developed
your inherent gifts?
I know, too, of many other
ex-Steiner school students who have done exceptionally well in
their lives in whatever they have decided to undertake, and have
on many occasions been impressed by the heights to which some
have risen, in spite of the very 'different' nature of the primary
curriculum.
We are a sort of global complaint
box, and we hear about a lot of failures!
Having said that, I must
say that the cult-like nature of most of the schools and also
of Anthroposophy is also something that I am critical of. There
is a general lack of interest and involvement with mainstream
culture that I think is counter-productive. The one criticism
I have of Waldorf education is that it does not run career advice
courses or teach politics - but then again one could say the
same about some mainstream schools!
I still take an interest in Steiner's ideas and writings - for
which it is largely necessary to keep an open mind and heart.
What are you reading? Do you
attend discussion groups?
Waldorf schools may not
be right for every child, however I think if mainstream education
absorbs some of the ideas it could help the Waldorf system evolve
in a healthy way.
I agree with that, but I think
the good ideas, like integration of art, are not fundamental
to the Waldorf system, nor are they unique to it.
Regards
Sarah Benson
Researcher and Electorate Officer to Senator Lyn Allison
Australian Democrats
62 Wellington Parade
East Melbourne VIC 3002
Australia
Phone 61 3 9416 1880
Fax 61 3 9417 1690
-Dan Dugan
Secretary, PLANS, Inc.
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From: golden3000997
Date: Tue Mar 9, 2004 4:56 am
Subject: Re: grateful graduate
Mr. Dugan,
There is no such thing as a "Steiner
cult" and you know it. This is a vicious and evil lie and
I have already forwarded you substantial definitions of what
a cult is and isn't and how, according to those definitions neither
Anthroposophy nor Waldorf Education is, was or ever will be a
cult.
Given the true meaning of the word "cult"
in this society as a group which manipulates and abuses its members,
applying this word to the Anthroposophical Society and the Waldorf
Movement is absolute slander and libel.
You will be held responsible for both your
use of this word and the intention behind it, hopefully in court.
I would suggest that in your search for the
truth about Anthroposophy and Waldorf Education, you do some
objective research on the definition and correct application
of the word "cult"; that you cease using it immediately
in connection with either Waldorf Education or the Anthroposophical
Society; and that you print a retraction of your former use of
the word in relation to either one of these entities.
I am pretty sure that your egotism will not
allow you to admit that you are wrong and to do the right thing.
But I hope for your sake that I am wrong in that evaluation,
just as you are terribly wrong in yours.
Christine Natale
March 9, 2004
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From: golden3000997
Date: Tue Mar 9, 2004 3:26 pm
Subject: Fwd: grateful graduate
From: Dan Dugan
Date: Tue Mar 9, 2004 10:39 am
Subject: Re: grateful graduate
To: waldorf-critics@topica.com
Mr. Dugan,
There is no such thing as a "Steiner cult" and you
know it.
<gumpvoice> Cults is
as cults does. </gumpvoice>
This is a vicious and evil
lie and I have already forwarded you substantial definitions
of what a cult is and isn't and how, according to those definitions
neither Anthroposophy nor Waldorf Education is, was or ever will
be a cult.
My opinion differs from yours.
Given the true meaning
of the word "cult" in this society as a group which
manipulates and abuses its members, applying this word to the
Anthroposophical Society and the Waldorf Movement is absolute
slander and libel.
It isn't libel to state an
opinion, nor is it libel to point out facts. I call Anthroposophy
a cult-like religious sect. There is abundant evidence to support
this opinion.
You will be held responsible
for both your use of this word and the intention behind it, hopefully
in court.
I would suggest that in your search for the truth about Anthroposophy
and Waldorf Education, you do some objective research on the
definition and correct application of the word "cult";
that you cease using it immediately in connection with either
Waldorf Education or the Anthroposophical Society; and that you
print a retraction of your former use of the word in relation
to either one of these entities.
So sue me. We'd love to have
publicity about this issue.
I am pretty sure that your
egotism will not allow you to admit that you are wrong and to
do the right thing. But I hope for your sake that I am wrong
in that evaluation, just as you are terribly wrong in yours.
Christine Natale
March 9, 2004
Christine, your religion will
get more respect when it starts behaving respectably. Here is
a list of cult-like characteristics that's published on the PLANS
web site:
Posted to waldorf-critics On 2/9/99 by Dan Dugan...
Cult-like characteristics
of Anthroposophy include:
* It clings to rejected knowledge.
(The heart is not a pump, etc.)
* It requires teachers to
commit to the world-view for advancement in status.
(college of teachers)
* Its core doctrines are not
published.
(First Class)
* It is exclusive.
(Only Anthroposophical knowledge of man leads to right education)
* It guards revelation of
"difficult" knowledge.
(Prospective parents won't be told about the role of Lucifer)
* It is a closed system.
(Almost all publications referenced are from Anthroposophical
presses and periodicals, all writers refer to Steiner)
* It uses jargon that redefines
common terms.
(Child development)
* It maintains separation
from the world by generating fear and loathing.
(Denigrating public schools, "us vs them" attitude,
paranoia)
* It suppresses critical dialogue,
resulting in elaboration but no development of theory.
(Consensus government, "like it or leave," Shunning)
-Dan Dugan
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You can ask any question about Waldorf you like here, no matter
how basic.
New threads are always welcome.
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From: at
Date: Wed Mar 10, 2004 3:43 pm
Subject: Re: grateful graduate
[Dan Dugan:]
* Its core doctrines are
not published.
(First Class)
The First Class hardly constitues the "core
doctrines" or Anthroposophy. And the texts of the First
Class are published and available publicly in Germany. I am not
sure of distribution in the US, but it is really not hard to
get a hold of a copy in English either.
-Dan Dugan
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You can ask any question about Waldorf you like here, no matter
how basic.
New threads are always welcome.
Just don't expect a knowledgeable answer.
Daniel Hindes
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From: holderlin66
Date: Thu Mar 11, 2004 12:35 am
Subject: Re: Fwd: grateful graduate
golden3000997 wrote:
to waldorf-critics On 2/9/99 by Dan Dugan...
Cult-like characteristics
of Anthroposophy include:
* It clings to rejected
knowledge.
(The heart is not a pump, etc.)
Bradford shocked!
What hairbrained dim wit, including the entire
medical profession, that treats the beating heart, invents pumps,
and imagines the heart is a pump, and still sticks to this stale
fable? This argument, along with the quotes recently used by
Peter, full quotes, dealing with the embryo and Mother and heredity
or with the "Wandering Jew" legend are so interesting
to answer and so bent in the minds of those supporting materialism
that it is almost fun to give it a run. It is almost hopeless
to inform a rock what a dog is.
I intend to come at these blundering of bulls
in a swimming pool to see if we can drop an electric cord in
the pool. We hear lot of splashing and a lot of bellowing but
no vision. Where is the Zap? Can't swim, well don't jump into
the pool. Have a failed vision of the human being, well strive
no more, your not alone.
Unexplored treachery;
There is no astral body/rooted in the nervous
system:
There is no etheric body/rooted in the metabolism and lymph system
There is no division of the New I AM in the Blood, that defies
the idea of blood and heredity.
There is no Life Tableau that has been witnessed by patients
and doctors alike as well as Emergency units.
Now the piston that pumps the blood has been
foolishly accepted because the medical profession must learn
to look upon the physical form, mechancially. The sensitivity
of the heart in every aspect of thought, sport, passion, and
love as well as blushing and blanching is so not a pump, and
nothing in the heart that has been the focus of such immense
universal treasure and profoundity should ever have been misunderstood
the way it has come about and now has become fact in Dan Dugan's
dim witted brain.
The living, pulsing human being is not a mechanical
life and death ken and barbie mechanism so that once Dan has
heard a theory and a Doctor has said something, life is solved.
Nothing before birth, nothing after death, don't ask don't tell
and He refuses to hear the reports that contradict the lie. Dugan
puts himself in the most idiotic stand point of siding with a
nearly criminal AMA delusion based on man as mechanism. This
is what you want our child to accept? What, so they learn not
to ask questions or become as interesting as Richard Feynman,
at least? This, and thousands of other bald faced lies, just
so you don't have to make an effort to think?
http://www.elib.com/Steiner/RelArtic/Marinelli/
"In a movie made by Bremer
of the beating embryonic heart, one observes that the spiraling
blood is boosted by the pulsating heart without creating turbulence
in the blood. This suggests that the momentum transfer occurring
between the heart and blood is in phase; the heart must somehow
sense the motion of the blood and respond to it in turn with
a spiraling impulses at the same velocities as the blood, thereby
combining blood and heart momenta.
It is assumed that heart muscle
layers have the same velocity distribution pattern as the concentric
streams of a free vortex to enable heart and blood motions to
couple in multi-velocity phase. It was significant to observe
that the movement of the heart occurred with minimal inward motion
of the heart wall. That the streaming of the blood can be observed
before the functioning of the heart is supported by observations
that the circulation in the early chick embryo is maintained
for around 10 minutes after the heart had been excised. Moreover,
the inherent mobility of the blood was highlighted by Pomerance
and Davies, who found an embryo that lived to term without a
heart but was born dead and grossly disfigured. Thus, the composite
view of the embryonic cardiovascular system tells us that the
blood is not propelled by pressure, but rather moves with its
own biological momentum and with its own intrinsic flow pattern."
Both Peter and Dan are clinging, nay wallowing,
in such retarded ideas, that I would be surprised if their mommies
and daddies had ever fully weaned them from diapers. To expand
the understanding of what a human being or the human race is
and where it is going, requires the soul to TEST to see if Steiner
was valid. In the above example hundreds of people have TESTED
Steiner and the validity is clear. The Heart is not a Pump, nor
do Angels wear shoes.
Is thought bound by the brain, or have we
ever thought of someone and the phone rings and it was the person
we were thinking of? Thought is not bound by the brain, it moves
as light and quicker than the fable that it takes a million years
for light to get to us, dim wits on earth. Thought is faster
than 186,000 miles per second. Should we wait for the next incarnation
of Richard Feynman to prove it?
What is idiotic is the amazing adolescent
idea that the body is some self contained, detached, mechancial
perpetual motion machine, where nobody can understand or see
your thinking, nobody can see deeper than Dan Dugan and Peter
and no one has taken the time to test Dr. Steiner's theories.
That remedies in plants have no effect? Dan you are growing to
the dimension of moron. Along with other miracles, Spiritual
Science, farming and medicine are extremely practical realities.
I have tasted the results and compared them.
The sheer adolescent stubbornness to box themselves,
ourselves into theories of the universe that don't stand up and
that are mere fantastic theories that Big Bang around in a cereal
box and are mere fads, when much more logical outlines exist,
is living in the switcheroo from Faith in Religion to Faith in
the latest unproven theories of Science. Unproven fables of science
are taught as solid SAT FAct, even when full of holes and pounded
into our childrens heads. Science reveals an understanding of
the dramatic, unseen shift from Faith in the Church to Faith
in the Fables of Science. This can be accurately measured in
a 500 year pivot.
Richard Feynman;
"Feynman thinks that
what a religion says about ethics is not rationally determinable,
and what a religion says about the nature of the universe is
a matter subject to rational investigation and is problematic
on those grounds. So the man who comes to value scientific rationality
as Feynman understands it will come to see religion as a set
of falsehoods useful to persuade people to behave ethically.
As we have seen, though, Feynman
misrepresents the nature of scientific rationality in his lectures.
Assuming that he and other science professors misrepresent the
nature of scientific rationality to their students as well, we
can begin to see why the students become atheists. From the false
information they receive from their elders, they cannot help
but reason falsely about the nature of religious belief. Were
the students to realize that their training as scientists was
actually training in investigation and not in questioning, that
each of them must give his assent to thousands of unproven claims
in order for the field to progress, they might see that scientific
reasoning is of a piece with reasoning in metaphysics, theology,
and ethics. The difference is that its subject matter, the physical
universe, makes reasoning much easier."
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From: VALENTINA BRUNETTI
Date: Thu Mar 11, 2004 1:59 am
Subject: R: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: Fwd: grateful graduate
Hi Brad,
I have to inform you that I felt myself free
to forward some of your brillant posts (like this) to some Italian
fellow anthrop. (So they'll be sure that there are powerful "mika-el-ites"
also outside Italy.....) The same people wish to know something
more about PS and DD I'm giving the right infos about them (
You see, some of Italian anthropop is so an unkind guy....)
A.
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From: holderlin66
Date: Fri Mar 12, 2004 1:19 pm
Subject: grateful graduate/Reckoning with Steiner
holderlin66 wrote:
Following some expanded notes:
to waldorf-critics On 2/9/99 by Dan Dugan...
Cult-like characteristics
of Anthroposophy include:
* It clings to rejected
knowledge.
(The heart is not a pump, etc.)
Now the piston that pumps the blood has
been foolishly accepted because the medical profession must learn
to look upon the physical form, mechancially. The sensitivity
of the heart in every aspect of thought, sport, passion, and
love as well as blushing and blanching is so not a pump, and
nothing in the heart that has been the focus of such immense
universal treasure and profoundity should ever have been misunderstood
the way it has come about and now has become fact in Dan Dugan's
dim witted brain.
http://www.elib.com/Steiner/RelArtic/Marinelli/
To expand the understanding of what a human
being or the human race is and where it is going, requires the
soul to TEST to see if Steiner was valid. In the above example
hundreds of people have TESTED Steiner and the validity is clear.
The Heart is not a Pump, nor do Angels wear shoes.
Bradford adds:
http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/psco/year25/8710.shtml
"II. In the Hodayot,
or Thanksgiving, Scroll several hymns express the idea that knowledge
of heavenly secrets actually signifies participation with angels.
This would be unremarkable, since angels in general were the
transmitters of special divine revelation; but here at Qumran
knowledge from the angels explicitly made one like one of the
angels — an angelic status through gnosis (1QH 3:19-23;
6:12-14). "
Diastole and Systole of the Heart:
Dia is the filling of up of Divine or Dia
"... dia tous angelous. It appeared to me, from a Qumran
parallel to the phrase dia tous angelous, that Paul was presupposing
the presence of angels during Corinthian worship."
This not only is vitally important but it
is like so much of the details of life that stand around us,
unexplored. No educational reality is thrown on the heart except
by Poets and the Sentient Soul swarmy substance of sex, dysfuntion
and instinct. But I am exactly refering to the Suction from above
in the Thought world and the flow into the limbs, and feelings.
In the Gap, is an Angelic, POF, higher field reality. I is hardly
right that we from the Michael School are unable to explore the
details of all this with the mighty tools of thinking given to
us. Yet we generally mosey around, sniffing here and sniffing
there and find ourselves like some 2 ton American munching at
a Salad Bar. Spiritual Science is not some salad bar, it loaded,
loaded with such right potent forces that it staggers me that
we spend so much effort on uninspired trivia.
The glass being half full or half empty shares
in our understanding of the action of the heart in filling and
emptying. Systole is to empty but this word DIA or Diastole brings
us to a very core mystery of the heart and the gap of higher
intuition in the heart.
To empty and fill the heart, to have the Emotional
and liquid golden substance of the higher Self in the heart begins
a process where in the future Organ of the Heart as the future
seat of our brains, brings us closer to the influx and release
of Divine forces through the medium of our hearts.
The very enormity of looking at the spread
and circulation of where the blood covers, circulates and spreads
over our entire body, to comparing it to the future Brain that
Steiner has talked about, and looking at the pale, little shrunken
nerve use of the light generator in this Beetle Cased skull,
left over from the Old Moon, should make us imagine. But we fail,
and fail again to imagine and sometimes, I wonder are we made
of concrete? So much of our most precious cultural contributions
come from our grasp of placing the Heart as the new Sun of the
Soul.
There is the mighty meditation of the Heart
encircled by thorns or crowned with the crown of Sainthood. But
Steiner has offered us something stunning to contemplate and
Imagine. Do we? Ha. Vital issues we just stare at this Steiner
stuff but it is pulse, it is vision, it is race forming substance
of the future UnFallen Soul condition which our I AM's are in
training for. This is not lukewarm, to be spat out, this is sizzling
with insights.
To examine what potential lives in the future
of our hearts brings us to what the Halo of the Saint really
means. How the purified emotional astral body that recieves the
Higher Christ Astral body as a Thinking faculty of the new heart
enters the uplifted cup of the Personality of our Human Selves.
Nothing is more profound than the Freedom to be the Personality
that you have shaped in dozens of incarnations but able to access
the Emotional mystery of the Astral Christ heart. If Christ had
not worn and was not invested with a human heart and felt the
emotions of Mankind, such a gift, a gift grafted into the legacy
of the gods to humanity, would not have been possible. Therefore
ask our fellows, is the heart a pump? Therefore we should ask,
what is Spirit Self? What Stage does that look like?
But we also have to ask, there is no need
for Bradford to yap about the wonders of the Astral body of Christ,
when the Unfallen Adamic/AnthroSophic soul is the reconstruction
required of fallen man to prepare for understanding and bringing
to bear the powerful future of the Immortal I AM down into his
form. I suspect we need to re-read that sentence rather carefully.
There is no doubt, that this is the inroad, the I AM, which will
reshape Race forming and the cohesive human form of the future.
Freckles, well I dare not speak about freckles,
or skin tone, or smoothness of texture in skin in relation to
thought, but the difference will begin to show within the harmony
and context of how the I Am has been reshaped by its efforts
with the AnthroSophic unfallen garment of soul, as an overall
Model, outlined out of Spiritual Science will slowly appear as
body. If repulsion of the AnthroSophic Soul forced one into lies
and deceptions, this is going to start arising, it won't be merely
Cancer after three incarnations of deception and adoration of
materialism.
Respiration:
Includes waking and Sleeping and communion
with what the plant community bequeaths to our lungs. It entails
carbon and diamond. It entails oil and life. It reveals pollution
and food for the Plants. Oil to kill over, gas to drive to destiny,
and maintain a corporate work identity and do your part to keep
the political machinery running.
Respiration reveals the give and take of plant
and Man and what the carbon atom with it's 12 fold micro picture
of the zodiac tells us about looking into a microscope or looking
out into the Stars. Are we Carbon based life forms and what does
it mean?
"The standard of atomic
weights is based on the carbon atom. Carbon12 is defined to have
a mass of exactly 12 amu. Carbon12 contains 6 protons, 6 neutrons,
and 12 electrons for a total combined mass of 12.10 amu. The
extra 0.10 amu was converted into energy during the process of
fusing hydrogen to helium to carbon in the core of a star."
Hardly anything closer to esoteric Persian,
Zarathustrian cosmology exists, let alone the Manichean philosophy
of Light and matter, which we avoid thinking about as much as
we avoid the depth of Steiner.
Now when the uneducated ask us to enter science
and the atomic table, matter and how Christ penetrated Matter,
you think I am hard to follow now, most of the people on this
very list have contributed nothing to the battle that Christ
actually commanded the atomic structure. He did and Steiner showed
us how he did it. Our deer in the headlights grasp over Oppenheimer
and Ahriman's 12 year mission to plant the Fear of Light in the
heart of man even fails at Spiritually grasping the greatness
of the history we are living in the Michael School. It reveals
to me a lack of insight and grasp of what is Science and how
Christ is Science not faith. We get very few takers, who take
the ball by themselves and run with it. They sit there, hoping
I didn't say what I meant. Maybe hoping Steiner was just teasing
us?
Steiner in his "St. John, in relation
to the other Gospels" delivers the highest revelation of
how the UnFallen Adam Soul forces, bearing Christ, begin stepping
up intensity, and intensity, after intensity as Christ penetrates
beyond the Wine, through Death's gates and down to the blood
and bone matter of man. What is the failure in thinking and laziness
that prevents those with clearer thoughts than I from showing
the difference between the controlled and contained Love and
Light implosion in Jesus at the Transfiguration, the sweating
of blood, The Seraphim infusion = Against the outward, immoral,
release of raw uncontained Light, locked in matter and effecting
the very bones of humanity of Strontium 90. What failure of understanding,
do we still blunder about with?
"1. The Tooth Fairy Project
Strontium 90 mimics calcium.
Plants can not tell the difference due to their similiarities.
Large quantities of radioactive strontium 90 were spread over
our planet by nuclear weapons testing in the 1940's and 1950's.
Plants have been bioaccumulating (concentrating) this strontium
90 and then we eat those plants. Our bodies are also fooled by
strontium 90. In a breakthrough study done in 1958 by Barry Commoner
and others, it was shown that the teeth of every baby in the
country had some level of strontium 90 accumulation.
When this information was
released, it caused such a stir that it is sometimes cited as
the real reason for the above ground test ban treaty. Strontium
90 is a radioactive fission product produced by either nuclear
weapons or nuclear bombs. Before the first fissioning in the
1940's, strontium 90 did not exist on our planet. It is a totally
man made element with a half life of 28 years. This relatively
middle range half life is part of the reason strontium 90 is
so dangerous, along with its similiarity to calcium.
Even very small quantities
of strontium 90, when incorporated into a persons teeth and bones,
would be doing great damage internally. Women also accumulate
large quantities of calcium in their breast milk. If strontium
90 is bioaccumulating in womens breasts, it could account for
the rise in breast cancer. The only reasonable course of action
is to oppose any further production of this dangerous element."
http://www.prop1.org/ice/toothfairy.htm
Bradford concludes;
It always seems to take some interloper to
gain the engine of the I AM, usually in idle mode, to wake itself
up. But if our ever so conservative Anthro's would wake their
asses up, there is no reason not to understand Current World
Events and as we have proven, 20Th Century Germanic Events in
a terrific fresh light.
To sleep perhance to dream.. Respiration is
not only a question of sleeping and waking but incarnation and
excarnation. Leaving the etheric body guarding the physical body
as we sleep, while we travel out to the Stars with our astral
body and fledgling ego is a well understood experience but still
unfathomed in our sciences.
Can a Dan Dugan, Peter or Diana, let alone
half the people on this list, understand how the etheric body
hangs out with its friend the physical, heredity, genetic, stem,
root body, while the Astral body and Ego go off tramping through
starry worlds, faster than any 186,000 mile speed limit set by
Einstein?
If we understood this, we could begin to shift
our paradigms. We would have to begin to understand that the
former etheric domination of heredity would be overshadowed now
by the new informing forces coming out of our I AM development.
We would be forced to shift to understanding the Star and Sophia
mandate against the forced cloning mandate that is approaching
us with ugly rehased Nazi/American Biological mandates. We would
be forced to have ethical discussions on the powerful AnthroSophic
Star and I AM molding forces from above, overcoming the former
racial forces from below. This would mean the more our depth
of clarity penetrates to the mighty unfallen model Steiner offered
the richer we all take Sophia into ourselves.
7 Races, 7 Stars and the Dragon craving to
take away the Astral Star and Ego forces which will grow in us,
as the Dragon and the 7 Stars becomes vivid, even as we discuss
these backward forces with a real believer. Below understand
the crisis of the AnthroSophic shift from the dominating Etheric
to the New and sustaining I AM from the Astral. A new umbilical
cord based on our livingly shared research and standing on Steiner's
Shoulders, is what we are living with from the horrific collapse
of Germany.
Verses one and two
"And there appeared a great wonder in
heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her
feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: And she being
with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
This scene opens with a vision of a woman in heaven."
I just want to know why we don't set our swords
in the ground and from every ammo dump hit them with their failure
to grasp, not only history, but what a human being is? That is
the Dwarf in me talking, but really, I just prefer heart interest
and joy in all that we have as the Treasure of the human spirit.
Entering the Incarnation process, contracting
at birth and expanding as we pass through the Spiritual World
after death and re-entering incarnation and once again shivered
back into new bones and blood are part of our unique biological
and spiritual mysteries. How we look upon our bodily processes
allows us to grasp what we take into our mouths and what comes
out of our mouths as food for educating upcoming souls, what
food do we deliver to them and what food do we take in? It means
redefining what Food really means and this brings us to our response
to Ahriman's question. Man does not live by Bread alone.
Light feeds us;
Emotions feed us;
Thoughts feed us;
Air feeds us;
You are what you Eat!
Bradford
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From: VALENTINA BRUNETTI
Date: Sat Mar 13, 2004 6:03 am
Subject: R: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] grateful graduate/Reckoning
with Steiner
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From: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] grateful graduate/Reckoning with
Steiner
Following some expanded notes:
Posted to waldorf-critics On 2/9/99 by Dan Dugan...
Cult-like characteristics
of Anthroposophy include:
* It clings to rejected
knowledge.
(The heart is not a pump, etc.)
Dearest Mr .Riley.
I have been interested again in this new case
of obsession by our common Italian friend. Well, this case about
DD is much more complicated than the PS's one, about whom we
have discovered the right therapy. IN the case of mr. Dugan we
see mixed together various beliefs, faith in Modern Science as
a mean to grasp the Reality for instance, all converging in a
crux obsession about "cults". He sees "cults"
in every world's corner.
Also in this case I have organized an International
web sympoium with my favourite fellows psychiatrists.
In the beginning there was an intention to follow the same therapy
as in PS's case aka duck-bill's piss in the brain, but our brilliant
Frenchmen colleague Mr.Peticons deLa Baguette made an asthonishing
discovery. In this case there is NO BRAIN AT ALL TO BE SPRINKLED.
Not to say that this guy got a total empty brain-box, not at
all.
DD shows inside himself a kind of earthworm's
cloaca, from the head to the anal orifice that in some strange
way replaces the function of the brain, also as a "thinking
machine" and this fact is able to help us to understand
why the quality of his "thinking" is so feeble.
Well, having said so,,, which therapy?
We have to study the case in deep and so we
kindly ask you if it's possible to get some little, little piece
of DD's anal orifice of head (that is the same in any case) in
order to have the chance to create an healthy therapy for this
unlucky guy.
Yours Faithfully
Prof. A:F:Scaccabarozzi
St.Cunegonda's Hospital ROME
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