Lisa's List of Cults

 

From: golden3000997
Date: Sat Mar 13, 2004 7:23 pm
Subject: Lisa's List of Cults Part One

Subj: websites in which "Anthroposophy" and the word "cult" are linked
Date: 3/9/2004 9:39:44 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: Lisa D. Ercolano
Reply-to: waldorf-critics@topica.com
To: waldorf-critics@topica.com (Waldorf Critics)

Christine,

You argue quite passionately that Anthroposophy is not a cult, and offer as evidence reference to a number of organizations whose definition of the word "cult" you claim would prove that unfitting to describe Anthroposophy.

Having 10 minutes to spare, I typed the words "Anthroposophy" and "cult" into Google, and came up with pages and pages of Websites, including the following:

http://www.update.uu.se/~fbendz/pseudo/anthropos.html

http://www.cults.co.nz/ae.html

http://skepdic.com/comments/steinercom.html

http://www.gkindia.com/therapies/anthroposophicalmedicine.htm

http://www.geocities.com/mibby529/rogues.html

http://www.update.uu.se/~fbendz/pseudo/

http://psychicinvestigator.com/demo/Cults.htm

http://cultpreres.users4.50megs.com/

http://www.whyaretheydead.net/krasel/books/evans/

http://www.csj.org/pubs_co/guestcolumn/newrelmovaagaard.htm

Lisa

OK Lisa,

Let's look at the List:

(1) http://www.update.uu.se/~fbendz/pseudo/anthropos.html

(Christine) - Home page of Frederik Bendz
Not much info about him or where he is coming from.
Has three "sects" listed:

Anthroposophy
Scientology
Jehovah's Witnesses

http://www.update.uu.se/~fbendz/index.html

Destructive sects and pseudo-sciences
Introduction
Reading about what the followers of destructive sects believe in has made me scared of what will happen to our democratic society if their claims are not contested. I don't think that an enlightened person would ever join any one of these cults if he knew what they stand for, and thus I will provide information about what different sects believe. And if their claims are un- or pseudo-scientific, I will tell you what the scientific community has to say about them.

What I'm looking for is not to give you both sides of the story, but to criticize things I dislike in the movements. If you want a more positive view of them, don't ask me to give you that. Instead you should follow the "pros" links I provide on each page.

Christine - what follows is a short, inaccurate description of Rudolf Steiner and Anthroposophy with a link to (can you guess who? PLANS!! And Skeptic's Dictionary (to follow).

Links
1. People for Legal and Non-Sectarian Schools
2. Here's an essay claiming that Steiner never was a member of the OTO.
3. Tio skäl att säga nej till waldorfskolor (Ten Reasons for saying no to Waldof Schools, swedish)
4. Skeptic's Dictionary: Anthroposophy, Rudolf Steiner and Waldorf Schools
Pros
5. Waldorf - Swedish Waldorf Schools.
6. The German official(?) site
7. Järna Bridge - All about the Anthroposophical movement in Sweden.
8. Biodynamic Farming and Gardening Association

../index.htmlBack to Fredrik Bendz' homepage

Last update: January 28, 2001
© Fredrik Bendz

(2) http://www.cults.co.nz/ae.html

Welcome to Cults.co.nz and the New Zealand Cult List
New Zealand Cults, Sects, Religions, Christian Organisations, and other groups.
Although called "The New Zealand Cult List", the list is much broader than just a list of the cults in New Zealand. It contains both religious and secular groups, Christian and non-Christian groups. Individuals are also included. The list is written from a Christian perspective. For more information, please see the About Cults.co.nz page.

About Cults.co.nz and the New Zealand Cult List
The NZ Cult List was started on 11 September 1999 by Ian Mander as a list of cults operating in New Zealand. It was quickly realised that a list of just cult groups was not sufficient and so to help people sort out the good from the bad the list expanded to include New Zealand cults, sects, religions, Christian organisations and other groups.

The list has been slowly growing ever since. The list will never be a complete, exhaustive list of religious groups in New Zealand, or even just the cult groups in New Zealand.

In mid October 2003 a major overhaul was completed, with the list being combined with more information to create a new web site - Cults.co.nz.

The new site has more information and hopefully makes the information even easier to find. The current editor is Ian Mander.

The list entries have been written from a Christian perspective and are not intended to offend people. Please understand that if you belong to one of the groups listed here and you don't like what is written, you are not being personally attacked. In almost all cases it is the group or cult that you belong to that is being exposed - normally because they try to unfairly control the lives of their members.

Many people take a "Let's bury our head in the sand" approach to the cults. They ignore the dangers of cults in the mistaken belief that the cults could not affect them. Sadly, cults and false religions can deceive all sorts of people. Very intelligent people are often misled by the cults. For more information on this see the Cult FAQ section on who joins cults. Read the rest of the Cult FAQ for more information on the dangers of cults, especially mind control

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Disclaimer: The below information contains many generalisations and may not apply to any particular cult.

What is a cult?
A religious or non-religious group that probably presents itself as being Christian or compatible with Christianity, but has either severe theological differences to normal Christianity or has a significant detrimental sociological
impact on its members. In other words, it's got seriously bad doctrine or it stuffs up people's lives (by using mind control to manipulate and control its members). Normally a cult has both these problems. (See Characteristics of a cult for more info.) A cult often has one charismatic leader that all the members (and sub-leadership) look up to. This makes mind control much easier for the cult.

Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons are cults because they get major doctrines wrong and practice serious mind control.

Exclusive Brethrens are a cult because although they have pretty good doctrine they are extremely legalistic and controlling when it comes to what members are allowed to do. For example, ExB-run companies have two lunch rooms (one for ExBs and one for non-ExBs), grandparents sue their own (former ExB) children for custody of their grandchildren, etc.

A cult generally produces undesirable behaviour modification. However some cults can sometimes create instances of desireable behaviour modification. For example, making a messy person's life more tidy, or a completely disorganised person more scheduled. (There are things that the Christian church can learn from cults.) However, these things are not done because of love, but rather to control the member.

The definition according to Dictionary.com: "A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader."

What is a cult not?
Ultimately a cult is not a healthy environment to be in. In the short term it may seem like a nice place but cults damage people. In the long term it is better to be out of a cult, and normally the sooner the better. When/if people leave, they are very often burnt out or feel used and worthless. Even worse, cults screw up people's relationships with Jesus Christ.

Usually a cult is not a bunch of people dressed in strange clothes who want to commit suicide together (or who are tricked into doing so). There are some infamous cults like this but most are not. Most cults appear quite ordinary on the surface. Members wear normal clothes and want to live normal lives, and will often be regarded as model citizens.

What is not a cult?
A small group that simply wants to worship God in their own way is not necessarily a cult. For example, a church that wants to sing a capella (without musical instruments) or has its main worship meeting on Saturday.

A religious or non-religious group with a charismatic leader is not necessarily a cult (although many cults do have a charismatic leader).

A religious sect is not a cult. The definition of a sect according to Dictionary.com: "A group of people forming a distinct unit within a larger group by virtue of certain refinements or distinctions of belief or practice. A religious body, especially one that has separated from a larger denomination."

A false religion is not necessarily a cult. Some religions make no claims about being Christian or compatible with Christianity. If they do not qualify on sociological grounds (such as mind control) they are simply a false religion (and still to be avoided).

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To help distinguish between the good and the bad, several icons are used to rate the listings.

Danger: The group/person or belief/practice is considered dangerous due to mind control or particularly bad doctrine. These groups (or people) have a strong tendency to damage their members/followers.

Caution: The group/person or belief/practice has false or questionable doctrine that to varying degrees may be directly or indirectly harmful to its members/followers and their families. Approach or use with caution.

OK: The group/person or belief/practice is considered OK and/or helpful.

False Religion: According to Christian belief Jesus Christ is the only way to God. All other religions fail to deal with the issue of sin, which sets us apart from God. Only Christianity provides forgiveness of sin because of Jesus paying the penalty that we should have paid. For more on this read the pamphlet We All Need Our Sins Forgiven.

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Please note that not all listings have been rated. For example, we normally consider it inappropriate to rate people and practices of world religions, so they will not typically get ratings.

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Actual entry:

Anthroposophy. Cult. See Anthroposophical Society.

Anthroposophical Society. Cult. Founded by Rudolph Steiner.

(Christine) Both signaled as "danger" - no description at all for either

Christine - ULTRA Right Wing "Christian" website
Lists Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam as "False Religions"

(3) http://skepdic.com/comments/steinercom.html

(Christine) There is a listing on "Skeptics Dictionary" for Rudolf Steiner, much of which is untrue. However, the webpage you cited above is actually a "reader's comments" page by (guess who?) Sharon Lombard!

http://skepdic.com/comments/steinercom.html

anthroposophy, Rudolf Steiner and Waldorf Schools

reader comments:

anthroposophy, Rudolf Steiner and Waldorf Schools

26 Aug 2000

I just read your article on Steiner, Waldorf, and Anthroposophy. Just wanted to quickly respond as it was very clear that you didn't really understand the esoteric Waldorf plan. The schools are an indoctrination into the cult of Anthroposophy. The curriculum is centered on the various occult initiates who Steiner absorbs into his pantheon. The children are given anthroposophical pictures and notions which will be of use in their next incarnation. The "individualism" that they advertise is a code word for the "Anthroposophical Being", a homogenous spirit made up of "Individual I's" that will dominate the world in Steiner's dreamed up future regime.

In Steiner's "Universal Human", p 16-17, he claims that the Initiate cannot have any personal ideas and views of his own, or he will never know objective truth. He states, "The person in whom anthroposophical wisdom appears must be completely unimportant compared to this wisdom; the person as such does not matter at all." He also says, "The anthroposophical view of the world develops in the most individual way, but at the same time it is the most unindividual thing you can imagine." On p 22-23 Steiner states that those that take in anthroposophical thoughts will have a spiritual substance that will help them penetrate the darkness when they die, they will then recognize the people that they worked with on earth. He discusses the deeper task of the anthroposophical movement which is to help those that developed their "individuality" to reincarnate and form core groups that will be scattered over the globe to rule those of us who are not anthroposophists. In his proposed Sixth Epoch he ominously asserts, "To put it bluntly, we can say that the earth and all it can yield will belong to those who now cultivate their individualities. Those, however, who do not develop their individual I will be dependent on joining a group that will instruct them in what they should think, feel, will, and do." [24] In the Seventh Epoch his cult will inhabit the earth in the form of the individual anthroposophical spirit, there will be no more sex, and "man will speak forth man."

Eurythmy is taken from the magical lodge tradition of gestures and signs. It has a secret language which Steiner lifted from the Cabbala, (via the Rosicrucians) and the children in Waldorf are made to communicate to the spirit world. Of course, some of the parents, (like myself at first) assume that it is a form of dance or movement. The Waldorf "art" is part of the system of rigid indoctrination, anthroposophical notions are copied off the board. There is no real free expression. The pictures in the early grade depict faceless people to help the children conform to the group. The water color exercises are occult moral exercises to heal the children and help their astral bodies mesh with their hereditary bodies, etc. If you examine the children's drawings, you will find all sorts of anthroposophical notions such as gnomes in mines. Anthroposophists believe that gnomes are real, and that you can find them in mines. (There is a book recording Steiner's lectures on this subject.)

Thought you might like to know who the anthroposophists say Steiner was in his previous lives: Enkidu, Kratylos, Aristotle, Schiontiolander, St. Thomas Aquinas, Rudolf Steiner, and he is expected to return at the end of the 20th C, in a rural, hilly place in the USA. Perhaps as a woman, most definitely as a Waldorf student!

The curriculum is all based on alchemy, magic, astrology, and all the bizarre and weird ideas of the occult. It is set up as a secret society, and most of the parents go along with the program without a clue. Luckily, our family figured out the Waldorf lies, and we removed our daughter from their absurd program. I have spent the last year reading Steiner and books about the occult worldview, the schools are not the progressive, liberal, artistic image that they are very good at portraying. The myths, religions and everything taught, are all anthroposophical selections and notions.

The experts of coded language, secrecy and hiding, are 'pulling the wool' over many eyes. With Waldorf, you must look deeper. As written in their magazine, "Anthroposophy Worldwide" 4/2000, p 12, " The press agent has to convey the outer appearance of things rather than the essential core. A deep esoteric background is necessary to make the essential core comprehensible." (Referring to their new press agent, Ursa Krattiger who has been hired to help them further deceive the public.)

Sincerely, Sharon Lombard. (A Freethinker out to expose wacky Waldorf.)

reply: You are not the only one who is out to expose Waldorf schools. Waldorf critics have their own website.

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(4) http://www.gkindia.com/therapies/anthroposophicalmedicine.htm

(Christine) I have no idea where this website is coming from. It gives no background about its authors and seems to be a travel guide of some sort to India.

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Anthroposophical Medicine
Anthroposophical Medicine involves an internationally organized group of people who think that Rudolf Steiner (an Austrian physician, 1861-1925) found the ultimate truth - the anthroposophy. Steiner said: By anthroposophy, I mean a scientific investigation of the spiritual world which will bring to light the weaknessess and half-truths not only of science but also of modern mysticism. It is a method which, before attempting to investigate the spiritual worlds, first develops psychic powers not normally used in daily life or in current scientific research.

The Anthroposophic cult is managed from Dornach, Switzerland. They have private universities in, at least, Switzerland and Germany. The cult has tight rules and they are very effective in lobbying for favorable political decisions. A good example is the current Medicine Act in the European Union.

Anthroposophic medicines are officially acknowledged as medicines in the whole of Europe, although the cult itself is not known in all of the 15 countries. No proof of efficacy or safety is required. Anthroposophers often present themselves as proponents of freedom of choice in health care.

The medicines in anthroposophic medicine are chosen by means of meditation.... Homeopathic medicines, heavy metals, etc. are used "as in ancient times." The diagnosis of cancer, for instance, is based on "balance of forces in the blood" as determined by crystalization by copper chloride, etc. Clairrvoyance is the ultimate level of an anthroposopher.

In general the cult is closed and secretive, but Steiner and Waldorf schools teach the ideas of Steiner (law of Karma and reincarnation etc.) to school children. In many countries, anthroposophists have succeeded in getting an official status (and state's financial support) for their schools.

Biodynamic farming is also part of their activities. Stellar constellations, as in astrology, are taken into account when conducting farming activities such as planting and harvesting.

An extensive review of the German anthroposophic group was published in Der Spiegel in 1984

(5) http://www.geocities.com/mibby529/rogues.html

"American Indians Against 'Newage' Spiritual Misappropriation"

(Christine) Very vitriolic website which rants against an assortment of people this person somehow thinks is doing a bad job by Native Americans. I have no idea where she got the information she printed below.

Interesting, though, in her article below, how she is so dead set against Native American & "White" intermixing! I say "her" because her "handle" is mibby529 and I can't find any other name or identification on the website.

Rudolf Steiner (deceased)
A German gentleman who started the Anthroposophy cult in the 19th century, Steiner is one of the most unusual types. His followers claim that Anthroposophy
is a "spiritual science." Anthroposophists hold many racialist beliefs, such as Cayce's "root race" theory. Many of their beliefs were the prototype for National Socialism. All of this would place them as simply another hate group, but many co-opt American Indian spirituality for the Völk-spirit, or blood/soil connection. Also, there is a Waldorf (Anthroposophist) school on Pine Ridge reservation. For some reason, I can't see the locals tolerating Nazism.

http://www.geocities.com/mibby529/essay.html

Twinkies for Dummies
Okay now, if you want to hang around Indians, there are some rules. Don't be a twinkie. You're probably wondering what a twinkie is. As you probably know, a Twinkie is a snack made by Hostess, consisting of cake, cream filling, and LOTS of sugar. They're the arch-nemesis of many a doctor. But when Indians talk about a twinkie, they mean someone who's involved in the New Age movement, so called because it's extremely sweet but has no spiritual value, just like how Twinkies have no nutritional value. So, you're probably wondering: "How do I know which way is right?" If you got here through my little search-trap, you're certainly wondering that. Well, my pretties, here's a list of legit elders that charge money:

That's right. None. Real Indians don't charge for spiritual wisdom. And we rarely reveal our spirituality to outsiders.

Oh, I can hear your cries of discrimination through the computer. It actually works out very well, though. Well, Indians, or Lakota at least, believe that Wak'an T'anka gave us our way, and gave you yours. We don't try to convert you, and as long as you don't try to convert us, your way of life is OK by us.

The problem therefore is when you claim that your beliefs are ours. Or when you attempt to convert to, say, Lakota beliefs. Or when you mix and match religions. Well, I've got a bombshell for you:

THERE IS NO SINGLE NATIVE AMERICAN RELIGION!!!

What I mean is that each nation has its own belief systems. In addition to, traditionals, there are Indian Christians and agnostics. Not only that, but there are also traditional/Christian syncretic sects such as the Native American Church. And, since the coming of the white man, there have been nationalistic movements such as the Ghost dance.

So, when you want to know about "the" Native American religion, please specify. Now onto mixing and matching. The typical New Age cocktail will include some non-Indian beliefs, like karma, zen, reincarnation, channeling, Feng Shui, Reiki, tarot cards, Daoism, Tantra, Western psychology, Atlantis, the Gaea theory, extraterrestrials, astrology, numerology...Just mix and match, even if it starts to contradict itself. What's wrong with mixing and matching? Simple. You know how eventually, different points of view start to contradict each other? Bingo. It causes confusion. Such confusion wouldn't happen, if the people involved never mixed and matched in the first place. Thumbs down to Dances with Wolves (Christine - my emphasis - her words)

Okay, how many of you got interested in Indians after watching Dances with Wolves? I should warn you that we don't like Dances with Wolves. Why? It started this whole wannabe craze.

Speaking of Indian movies, why are they always about the white guy? A Man Called Horse, Dances with Wolves, Thunder Heart, etc. Always about the white guy. I wasn't surprised when Windtalkers portrayed the Dineh as white man's burden. If they're not about the white guy, the Indians are played by whites. Billy Jack comes to mind immediately.

Bottom line: If you want to see an Indian movie, make sure the guy making the movie's Indian. Otherwise, you end up with a lot of "sweetness and light" crap that makes you want to vomit.

Where's the Justice?

While twinkies are doing all this sacreligious bullshit, Indian religious freedom is regulated by the government. Until the 1978, we didn't have religious freedom. Period. Now we have to register with the government to have it. Not only that, but certain Christian fundamentalist orgs are trying to force us to convert. And in a typical week, missionaries from twelve different denominations will try to save my heathen soul. Some anti-Indian groups attack our subsistence, saying that even allowing us our right to culture is the same as apartheid. They even come up with clever slogans. "Prairie niggers," I would've never thought of that. "Save a whale, harpoon a Makah." And they get to advocate genocide at the same time. These well-meaning-but-not-having-their-priorities-straight liberals have a good sense of humor, not. And all the time, nuclear waste is dumped on reservations, and the environmentalists do nothing. White privilege at its worst.

Marketing

You've heard of Lynn Andrews? Her books alone have sold more than all the Indian-written books ever printed. And why? Because her books are more fluffy than (say) God is Red. A real book on Indians will make the reader think, and show that anti-Indian sentiment is still apparent, and even growing. A typical New Age book will make the Indians white and the whites Indian.

Also, Andrews has the good ol' (white) boy network going for her, and getting published is very difficult if you're Indian. One of the biggest issues with New Age frauds is that they use their white privilege to sell snake oil while real Indians can't sell a single book.

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From: golden3000997
Date: Sat Mar 13, 2004 7:32 pm
Subject: Lisa's List of Cults Part Two

OK Lisa,

Let's look at the List: (continued)

(6) http://www.update.uu.se/~fbendz/pseudo/

(Christine) Whoops! Did this one (home page of Frederik Benz) See 1-5

(7) http://psychicinvestigator.com/demo/Cults.htm

http://psychicinvestigator.com/

(Christine) The home page has a big picture of Nostradamus and a clock and I haven't figured out how to get to the page listed above from the home page. Backing to "demo" gives a list of files, presumably the author's investigations, but none of the file names start with anything Anthro or Steiner.

from the files of the PSYCHIC INVESTIGATOR
copyright 2001, Tom Howell Productions

http://psychicinvestigator.com/demo/Cults.htm

Cults and Small Religions

Anthroposophical Society - Leader: Rudolf Steiner
Steiner's life was devoted to building up a complete science of the spirit, to which he gave the name Anthroposophy. Foremost amongst his discoveries was his direct experience of the reality of the Christ, which soon took a central place in his whole teaching. The many books and lectures which he published set forth the magnificent scope of his vision. From 1911 he turned also to the arts - drama, painting, architecture, eurythmy - showing the creative forming powers that can be drawn from spiritual vision. (Anthroposophical Webpages).

(8) http://cultpreres.users4.50megs.com/

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Welcome to the CPR's site for information on cults and sects. Here you will soon find links to information about many cults of all types. As we have co-authors who speak a combined total of four languages, we will eventually provide a multi-lingual page (English, French, German, Spanish).

CPR believes in information. While it is our conviction that freedom of religion and freedom of opinion are superior qualities of any self-respecting democracy, and while CPR therefore does not advocate excessive government control beyond the point of ensuring and safeguarding the basic rights of all citizens against violations from cults and religions of all types, CPR understands that democratic processes, including the freedoms of opinion and religion, are not possible without factual information.

CPR feels that anybody should be free to join any group, religious, pseudo-religious, political or of any other social type - if they wish to do so based on correct and true information, and as long as that group respects the rights of others, members and non-members alike. And this basically all by itself describes CPR's criteria for deciding to inform about a group. We strongly object to all forms of misrepresentation, manipulation, coercion, mind control, brain washing, programming, excessive persuasion, violence, suppression of information, kidnapping, threats, instilling of fear, smear or "black PR" campaigns and any other treatment indicative of an insufficient respect for one's neighbor.

CPR strives to provide critical information on such groups, focusing on cults, sects, religious groups, totalitarian movements, new religious movements, new age groups, etc. CPR does not at this point inform about political parties, medical or other scientific movements, social developments and product-related movements.

The idea is that an informed consumer will be more likely to make whatever decision is best for him. If a person knowingly decides to trade his independence and control over his life and finances for promised salvation of any kind, this is his God(?)-given right. If he is however covertly tricked into making small commitments which step by step lead to his complete social isolation outside of and dependence on whatever group, his basic rights are being violated. It is against this that our efforts are aimed.

It is CPR's experience that a lot of information is already available. Where this is the case, CPR provides links to the respective sites, thereby making a broader spectrum of views more easily accessible. (Christine's emphasis)

We will feature information on a lot of groups, such as the ones named on the below list. This is not understood as passing judgment on these groups, but intended to provide the reader with factual and critical information. In most cases, a link to the official home page of the respective group will be given as well. On the other hand, the below list is in no way complete, but focuses on groups that we wish or are able to inform about at this point. The fact that an activity is not listed does not mean that it is above all suspicion. Other groups will be added onto the list, as information (and time...) will become less inflationary at CPR.

(MY NOTE - IT IS EASY TO FIND A LINK TO THE ANTHROPOSOPHY HOME PAGE, SO WHY
ISN'T THERE ONE?)

As we are still in the process of constructing our site, not many links are currently active. Keep checking back, as this will change weekly.

Important
We feel that in alignment with our desire to provide information, it is very important for people to network and coordinate. Because of this, CPR will provide a platform for anybody to announce their upcoming events.

List of Featured Information
Adventists (aka Seventh Day Adventists, SDA)
Ananda Marga (AM)

Anthroposophy
Christine's Note: (NO LINK FOR INFO)

AVATAR®
Baha'i-Movement
Boston Church of Christ
Children of God
Chinmoy
Christian Fundamentalism
Church Universal and Triumphant (CUT aka Summit Lighthouse or Summit
University)
Eckankar
Evangelicalism
Free Masons
Hare Krishna (ISKCON)
ICF - International Christian Fellowship
Islam
Jehovah's Witnesses/Watchtower Society
Landmark Education (aka "The Forum" or "EST")
Mormons (Latter Day Saints)
Opus Dei
Osho (aka Baghwan)
Radha Soami Satsangs
Rhema Bible Church
Sai Baba
Sathya Sai
School of Tomorrow
Scientology
Soka Gakkai Internationale (SGI)
Solar Templar
Tele-Evangelism
Transcendental Meditation (TM)
Unification Church (aka Moon)
Watchtower Society (see Jehovah's Witnesses)

And lastly, some general links:
Fredric Rice's Skeptic Tank is a very interesting place to get information. It "maintains extensive archives on destructive groups, individuals, and ideologies with special focus on religion's impact upon history as well as religion's impact upon rights, liberties, health, and safety of the world's populace in contemporary times."

Steve Hassan has been involved in educating the public about mind control and destructive cults for over twenty-three years. He is a licensed Mental Health Counselor, and holds a Masters degree in counseling psychology from Cambridge College. He has authored the critically acclaimed book Releasing the Bonds: Empowering People to Think for Themselves.

French legislation currently being discussed in the French government (this document is in French, chose # 546) The report of the German Enquete Commission in English on the server of the Bundestag or, as an alternative for those who don't favor reading never-ending vague documents, only the recommendations of this report, also in English. A European page with A LOT of links on many groups. A lot of stuff is in Dutch, German or Swedish, but there is also information in English. Check it out, it's interesting! For an input on tis site, additional information, links that you would like to have added, or just to say hello, mail CPR at cpreres@yahoo.com

(9) http://www.whyaretheydead.net/krasel/books/evans/

(Christine) This page is the index page of the book below, specifically against Scientology.

Dr. Christopher Evans - Cults of Unreason
HTML'ized by Alan Barclay
Table Of Contents

Contents:
INTRODUCTION:
End flaps and title page
Introduction
/krasel/books/evans/begin.html
I THE SCIENCE FICTION RELIGION
In the Beginning...
Lives Past, Lives Remembered
Grow New Teeth
Thought Has Mass
The Master of Saint Hill
Brush with Authority
All at Sea
Ethics and Uniforms
From Psychotherapy to Religion
II THE SAVIOURS FROM THE SKIES
The Coming of the Saucers
Jesus is Alive and Well and Living on Venus
Myths in the Skies
III BLACK BOXES
The Pioneers
More Mental Marvels
IV THE MYSTIC EAST (OR THEREABOUTS)
Many Masters
Divers Holy Monks
Yesterday and Tomorrow
INDEX
To Library of books on Scientology

Dr. Christopher Evans - Cults of Unreason
Index
Abrahms, Dr Albert, 181-3, 191, 206 pioneers
Adamski, George, 142, 146-7 pioneers
Aetherius Speaks to Earth, 154 pioneers
Aetherius Society, 150-1, 153- 7, 159, 160-1, 162, 167, 179, 212 pioneers
All About Radiation, 21 begin
All and Everything, 218-20 begin
Analog, 201 page
Anderson, Kevin, 82 S7
Anderson Report, 82-4, 103 S7
Angell, H. R. `Wing', 55-6 S4
Anthroposophy, 226 SH
(Christine's emphasis)
Apollo (yacht), 117 page
Arnold, Kenneth, 140 page
Astounding Science Fiction, 30-2, 201 begin
Atlantean Society, 248-9 SI
Atlantean, The, 248-9, 252 SI
Atlantis, 245, 246, 247-9 251 SH
Auditor, The, 89, 99, 101, 106, 109, 114-15, 125n., 126, 131 S7
Avon River (trawler), 93, 94-6 S7

Bartok, Eva, 230 0
Basille, Rev. Frank R., 170-1 1
Beatles, 227, 233 1
Benitez, William, 124-5 1
Bennett, J. G., 217-18, 220, 221, 222, 223, 228, 229, 230, 232 1
Besant, Annie, 225, 226, 227 1
Bianca, Sonia, 49, 56, 72 1
`Black boxes', 180-9, 195-200. See also Feedback Cult; Orgone Accumulator 1
Blavatsky, Helena, 145, 225, 226 1
Bouchier, Chili, 248 0
Brown, Gertrude, 127 0
Brubeck, Dave, 48 0
Burgess, Clifford, 239 0

Callaghan, James, 90 90
Cameron, Basil, 231 231
Campbell Jnr., John, 31-2, 37, 38, 58, 201 31
Cave of the Ancients, The, 244 244
Certainty, 21, 25, 103-5 2
Chapdelaine, Perry, 42-3, 49-51 42
Character Analysis, 207 207
Character of Scientology, The, 81, 132 81
Chariots of the Gods?, 146 146
Christian Science, 12, 57 57
Church's Fellowship for Psyical Research, 13 13
`Church of the Final Judgement, The' - see 'Process, The' 1
Churcher, Stanley, 96, 97 96
`Clear', the state of being, 39- 40, 41, 42, 43, 110, 111-12; searches for
the first, 48-56, 88-9; and preclears, 62-63 39
Coming of the Guardians, The, 168 168
Condon Report, 144, 145 144
Cosmic Voice, 154, 155, 158, 161-2, 163, 164, 252 154

`Daily Express', 199 199
Daily Mail, 108-9, 215 108
Daily Mirror, 94-5 94
Daily Telegraph, 104, 218 104
Daniken, Erich von, 146 146
Davies, Mr Justice Arthurian, 198-9 198
Day, Langston, 194-5 194
de la Warr, George, 184-9, 191, 193, 194, 195-200, 201, 206 184
de la Warr, Mrs, 200 200
Delawarr box, 187-9, 195-200 187
Dewan, Dr Edmund, 203 203
Diana (yacht), 93 93
Dianetic Research Centres, 38 388
Dianetic Research Foundation, 59 59
Dianetics, 20, 31-7, 38-9, 75- 6, 97, 116, 117; become, Scientology, 43, 20
Dianetics: Axioms, 24, 27 24
Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health, 18, 29, 33, 39, 18
Doctor from Lhasa, 239, 242-4 239
Doctor Looks at Dianetics, A, 58 58
Dramatic Universe, The, 229 229

Eddy, Mary Baker, 12 12
Edwards, Frank, 147 147
Einstein, Albert, 79, 195, 197 79
Eisenbud, Dr Jules, 190 190
E-meters, 12, 61-2, 63-6, 73, 95, 96, 97, 111, 117, 129, 179-80, 203 12
Empire News, 154-5 154
Endfield, Cy, 49 49
Evening Argus (Sussex), 19, 74 19
Excalibur, 61 61

`Fads and FALLACIES IN THE NAME OF SCIENCE', 67, 207 67
Feedback Cult, 202-6 202
Filson, Vic, 104 104
Flying Saucer Conspiracy, The, 142 142
flying saucers, 137, 154, 165-6, 168, 171-5, 251; and cults, 11, 137-49, 137
Flying Saucers; a Modern Myth of Things Seen in the Skies, 165, 165
Flying Saucers and the Straight-line Mystery, 172 172
Flying Saucers have Landed, 142-7, 168 142
Food and Drug Administration (US), 79, 80-2, 180, 207, 208 79
Foster, Sir John, 131 131
Founding Church of Scientology, The, 77 77
Fourth Way, The, 216 216
Freedom, 133 133
Freud, Sigmund, 35, 103, 207 35
Function of the Orgasm, The, 207 207

Gaiman, David, 91, 92, 101, 125 91
Galbally, J. W., 82 82
Gandalf's Garden, 250, 251-2 250
Gardner, Martin, 67, 207 67
Glastonbury Tor, 172, 249- 50; and zodiac, 250 172
Goddard, Air Marshal Sir Victor, 198-9 198
Great Pyramid in Fact and Theory, The, 143 143
Green, Gabriel, 145, 148 145
Grimstone, Mary Anne, 118-19 118
Grimstone, Robert de, 118-19, 122 118
Grubb, Margaret Louise, 26, 59 26
Guide to Clinical Condition, 188 195, 214-24, 225, 228, 230, 231, 188
Gurdjieff, George Ivanovich, 195, 214-24, 225, 228, 230, 231, 246 195
Gurdjieff Foundation, 223 223

Hamblett, Charles, 73 73
Hare Krishna, 232-4 232
History of Man, 42, 43-7 42
Holy Grail, 173, 249-50 173
Horden, Peter, 88, 89 88
Horner, Jack, 54-5, 56, 118 54
Hoskins, Cyril - see Rampa, Tuesday Lobsang 1
Howes, Ron, 51-4, 56, 72 51
Hubbard, Alexis, 27 27
Hubbard Dianetic Foundation, 59-60, 61 59
Hubbard Exploration Company, 93 93
Hubbard, Katherine May, 26 26
Hubbard, Lafayette Ronald, 17, 18-29, 31-7, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 46, 48, 49-50, 51, 53, 54, 56, 57-8, 59-61, 63, 66-7, 68-71, 72-9, 83, 84-7, 89, 89-92, 93, 94, 95, 96-7, 98, 99, 101, 102, 103-6, 107, 108-9, 111, 113-14 17 115,116-18, 123, 127, 130, 131,132, 133, 134, 189, 195, 201, 214 1
Hubbard, Mary Sue, 27, 71, 87, 97, 117 27
Hubbard, `Nibs', 19, 26, 29, 59, 117, 123 19
Humphreys, Christmas, 198 198

Institute for the Harmonious Development of Man, 216, 222 216
International Times (It), 133, 252 133
Irwin, John, 234-5 234

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, 130 Jesus Christ, 13, 122, 167, 252; and the claims of the Aetherius Society, 154-5, 158, 162, 167 130
Jesus Christ, 13, 122, 167, 252; and the claims of the Aetherius Society, 154-5, 158, 162, 167 13
Jones, Capt. John, 95-6 95
Jung, Carl Gustav, 11, 139, 165-7, 247 139

KAWIN-TOOMIN, DR MARJORIE, 203-4 203
Kember, Mrs, 89 89
Kennedy, John F., 28, 78, 79 28
Keyhoe, Donald, 142 142
King, Cecil J., 92 92
King, George, 150-7, 158, 159, 160-1, 162, 163, 164, 167 150
Kingsland, W., 143 143
Knight, Damon, 117 117
Krishnamurti, Jiddu, 226, 227 226

LARVARON, PROF. H., 192 192
Lawrence, John, 126 126
Lee, Gloria, 148 148
Lemuria, 245, 246 245
Leslie, Desmond, 142, 143-6, 168 142
Let's Face the Facts about Flying Saucers, 145 145
Ley Hunter, The, 173 173
Lilliput, 72-4 72
Living with the Lama, 244 244
London Scientology Organization, 70-1 70
Lord of the Rings, The, 250 250

MCMASTER, JOHN, 88, 89, 92, 132 88
Maharishi Yogi, 12, 227 12
Mailer, Norman, 206 206
Mass Psychology of Fascism, The, 207 207
Mathison, Volney, 63, 66 63
Meade, Layne, 168 168
Mesmer, Franz Anton, 181 181
Michel, Aime, 171-2 171
Mind and Matter, 197, 199 197
Mindbenders, The, 105 105
Murray, Jacqueline, 248 248
Musack, Bob, 126 126
My Visit to Venus, 244-5 244
myths, continued potency of, 246-53 246
`NEW MODEL OF THE UNIVERSE, A', 216 216

New Republic, 38 38 0
New Worlds Beyond the Atom, 194-5, 196 194 1
New York Times, 59 59 0
Northrup, Sarah, 27, 59, 123 27 1

`OBSERVER, THE', 238 238 0
Org Book, The, 95, 96 95 1
Orgone Accumulator, 207 207 0
Orgs, 98-100, 105-6, 117. See also Sea Orgs 98 1
Ouspensky, Peter, 215-16, 220, 215 1
Outsider, The, 223 223 0

`PEOPLE, THE', 96-7, 104, 119 96
Phillips, Catherine, 198 198
Pitt, John, 239-40 239
Prabhupad, Swami, 232, 238 232
Probert, Mark, 168 168
Proceedings of the College of Universal Wisdom, 148 148
`Process, The', 118-23 118
Psychic News, 155, 162, 167, 201, 239 155
Purcell, Don, 38, 39, 58, 59- 60, 61 38

RAMPA, TUESDAY LOBSANG, 12, 234-45, 246, 251 12
Reich, Wilhelm, 207-8 207
Religion, and vacuum left by decline in its authority, 7, 9-10, 11, 137-8,
166, 212, 247, 252-3 7
Religion and the Rebel, 223 223
Richards, Bobby, 50 50
Robertson, Rev. Keith, 164 164
Robinson, Kenneth, 88, 89, 90, 131, 133 88
Ron's Journal, 70 70
Royal Scotsman (ferry boat), 93-4, 96-7 93
Ruppelt Capt. Ed., 141 141

`SAUCERS SPEAK, THE', 168 168
Schuman, Prof. F. L., 38, 59 38
Scientology, 68 68
Scientology 8-8008, 20 20
Scientology Ethics Department, 98-9, 107 98
Scientology, Part I passim, 137, 179, 247, 252 137
Sea Orgs, 23, 93-102, 107 23
Serios, Ted, 190-1 190
Shulman, Ronald, 124, 125 124
Shuttlewood, Arthur, 173-4 173
Sinclair, Upton, 183 183
Sky People, The, 171 171
Smith, Geoffrey Johnson, 88, 89, 124 88
Snellgrove, Dr D. L., 88, 89, 124 88
Spearman-Cook, Gladys, 167 167
Spiritualism, 12, 167-8 12
Steiner, Rudolf, 226 226
(Christine's emphasis)
Subud, 227-32, 246-7, 251 227
Subuh, Pak, 228, 229-31 228
Sudrow, Lyle, 89 89
Sunday Mirror, 93-4 93
Sunday Telegraph, 86 86

THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETY, 225, 226, 227 225
Theosophy, 12, 225-6, 227 12
`Thetans', 40-2, 43, 44, 46-7, 57, 60, 62, 111, 127; and `Operating Thetan', ** 40
Third Eye, The, 238-9 238
Thomas, Paul, 146 146
Thompson, Cdr `Snake', 20, 69 20
thought photography, 189-91, 193-4, 206 189
Times, The, 22-3, 145, 200 22
Times Literary Supplement, The , 238 238
Tolkien, J. R. R., 250-1 250
Toomin Alpha Pacer, 204-6 204
Trench, B. le Poer, 146, 171 146

UFOLOGY - see FLYING SAUCERS S1
`unidentified flying objects' (UFOs) - see flying saucers begin
US Air Force, investigates UFOs, 140-2. See also Condon Report 140
Universe Makers, The, 58 58

Van Tassel, George, 147-8 147
Van Vogt, A E., 38, 49, 58, 118 38
Venture with Ideas, 195
Venus, and the Aetherius Society, 152, 154, 155; and Dr Rampa, 244-5, 246 152
Vosper, Cyril, 101, 105 101

Walker, Dr Kenneth, 195-6, 197, 198, 223 195
Warburg, Frederick, 234, 235, 237, 240, 241 234
Warminster Mystery, The, 173, 174 173
Warning from Flying Friends, 174 174
With Mystics and Magicians in Tibet, 235 235
Witness, 217, 231 217
World of Teed Serios, The, 190 190

Yoga, 212-14 212
You-Forever, 244 244
Return to Introduction

(Christine) Here's page 226

The Mystic East (or Thereabouts) and practice of yoga. Its aims were threefold: (1) to form a Universal Brotherhood of man with no racial barriers; (2) to further the study of comparative religion; and (3) to investigate the supposedly paranormal faculties of man such as telepathy and clairvoyance, which were believed in with great intensity in the nineteenth century.

In its early days, thanks partly to the magnetic and well-publicized figure of Madame Blavatsky, it attracted a good deal of attention from the intellectual middle and upper classes and drew into its ranks, if only briefly, a number of individuals of real creative ability such as the scientist and philosopher, Rudolf Steiner. (Christine's emphasis) The trouble with the Theosophical Society was that it was run by two very self-willed women and it nearly foundered in its early years in legal actions and wrangles over its leadership. These became particularly acute on the death of Madame Blavatsky in 1891, though Mrs Besant finally emerged triumphant. Just a year after she had been elected president she launched the Society on an unexpected course which caused a gigantic rift in the movement, from which it has never really recovered. This was the strange episode concerning the elevation of a young Brahmin child, Jiddu Krishnamurti, into the role of a new Messiah - a dramatic gesture which implied that Christ had returned to earth, but clothed in the body of an Indian child.

So enraged were Society members that Mrs Besant had dared to discover Christ's successor without their permission, that the movement broke apart. Amongst the most notable defectors was the interesting figure of Rudolf Steiner who departed for Europe and in 1912 set up his own occult movement, Anthroposophy. Steiner, who was enormously influenced by the writings of Goethe, caused a vast building of bizarre but powerful architectural merit, the Goethanum, to be erected in Switzerland and this is still the headquarters of his movement's activities. Anthroposophy has gradually emerged as the more significant philosophy of the two, and has attracted to its embraces a number of artists and poets of magnitude, including the stylish modern painter, Kandinsky. Though operating on vague and scatty ideas about the healing qualities of coloured rays of light, followers of Steiner have had notable successes in schools devoted to the care of backward or handicapped children. How much of this success is due to the `colour therapy' and how much to the care and devotion with which the children are taught is a matter for argument, but it is enough to say that the results are beneficial and that is that.

(Christine's emphasis)

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(10) http://www.csj.org/pubs_co/guestcolumn/newrelmovaagaard.htm

AFF resources about psychological manipulation, cult groups, sects, and new religious movements.

Cult Observer New Religious Movements

A Review of Press Reports on Cultism and Unethical Social Influence

The Cult Observer: Guest Columns
Prof. Aagaard on New Religious Movements
by Johannes Aagaard

What are labeled cults in the USA are normally called new religious movements (NRMs) in Europe. New Age should be added to these concepts, indicating the wider and more pervasive, but also more subtle, religiosity which is generally the basis of new religious movements. Although these phenomena have roots in past generations, the "age" of New Age takes it back to the last third of the last century. The World's Parliament of Religions in Chicago in 1893 can be taken as the real beginning of the worldwide expansion of Neo-Hinduism (Vivekananda), Neo-Buddhism (Anagarika), and Theosophy (Annie Besant). From 1893 to this day, these three movements have grown as part of the same New Age Tree, the Tree of Knowledge, or Gnosis. Theosophy in various forms, including Anthroposophy, (Christine's emphasis) the Wisdom of Martinus, Alice Bailey, Elizabeth Clare Prophet, Ananda Tara Shan (the Rosegarden), Benjamin Creme, etc., seems to be the common denominator of most of the New Age groupings. The theosophical paradigm seems to constitute in some way a synthesis of what might superficially be called East-West spirituality.

The Light from the East Comes from the West

The new paradigm - one could call it the Pacific paradigm - is called "the Light from the East," but in fact it most often comes from the West. It came over the Pacific Ocean to the west coast of the USA, crossed that country, continued across the Atlantic, included Western Europe, and is now entering the formerly Communist world as a sure winner.

The capitalist market system quickly determined the financial prospects of this new paradigm. Gurus and masters were caught up in the market mechanisms and transformed into managers and multinational leaders. New technological and streamlined pseudo-religions were created and their supermen came to lead organizations which are Mafia-likeinstruments of manipulation.

Very few of the new expressions of synthetic spirituality survived this capitalist exploitation, and even fewer wanted to. Youth were and are caught up in the NRM invasion, and very large segments of Western culture, already influenced by the New Age paradigm, are ready to sell out their Christian heritage.

Parent Organizations' Approach

The immediate and understandable reaction against the new paradigm and its organizational and financial exploitation came from the parents of young people caught up in the "stormy weather" of "Cults" (the term common in the US), "Jugend-religionen" (in Gemany), and New Religious Movements (the term generally used elsewhere).

It is a well-known fact that in many countries parents and relatives of people who have joined new religious movements have come together to create organizations to support one another and to counter the influence of what they call "cults." Children of parents who have become cult members also participate.

These organizations understandably do not care much for subtleties and differentiations when they approach the NRMs. They generally take a very negative attitude toward research about NRMs because researchers do not stand up generally against the cults but rather set the "truth question" aside. The parents' organizations, however, also tend to set the truth question aside, for they consider the cults as solely exploitalive and without any genuine religious characteristics. To ask the truth question in relation to the NRMs would, for the parents' groups, be as phony as asking the truth question in relation to the Mafia.

(Christine's emphasis)

This means that the parents take no stand of their own. They do not operate as Christian bodies and do not deal positively with religion as a common option. Individual members are often Christians, especially the leaders (but not always). There seems to be a tendency for parents against cults also to be parents against Christianity. But it is impossible to generalize on this point.

The Scholars' Approach

Research on NRMs has become a force in itself. Sociology of religion, psychology of religion, history of religion, etc., all share in a general attempt to collect data and establish documentation to clarify, analyze, and understand the NRMs as contemporary expressions of the religious search of mankind. In this effort there is a general tendency to set the "truth question" aside because taking a stand on the truthfulness and the reliability of NRMs would impair the "objectivity" and "neutrality" of scholarly projects.

This scholarly detachment is sometimes taken to the extreme that even value statements must be forsaken. For a scholar, Catholicism has the same value as Scientology, Quakerism, or the Ananda Marga. It is possible to ask, however, whether there is a tendency to fall into a rather naive and positivistic methodology in this approach. Is such neutrality and objectivity anything but a dream? Indeed, this dream sometimes turns into a nightmare when the "neutral" and "objective" scholar turns against the parents' organizations and attacks them for taking a stand against the cults. The simple fact of being against cults and working in anti-cult organizations seems to be objectionable when seen by the "neutral" and "objective" scholar. In fact, this scholar seems toplay the role of anti-anti-cult agent. But one cannot uphold neutrality by doubling one's anti-attitude. Minus against minus means a plus, and that is a stand. I believe that the anti-anti-cult movement is methodologically in deep trouble, seen from scholarly and heuristic viewpoints as well as from social and political perspectives. Science for science' s sake is really old hat! (Christine's emphasis)

Johannes Aagaard, a professor at the Institute of Missiology and Ecumenical Theology, Faculty of Theology, Aarhus University (Denmark), is Converter of the Dialog Center International, a Christian research organization that collects and disseminates information on cults and new religious movements. His remarks here are a transcription of a presentation he made during a recent visit to the U.S.

Got any more?
Christine Natale
March 13, 2004

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From: golden3000997
Date: Sat Mar 13, 2004 8:31 pm
Subject: Re: Lisa's list of cults

Lisa,

I really shouldn't have to explain this, but I was trying to show that it was a pretty mindless "exercise" on your part to attempt to justify the word "cult" in relationship to "Anthroposophy" by saying, "See, when I search for cult and Anthroposophy on the web I get lots of links!" Thereby inferring that Anthroposophy and cult are linked in definition and relationship.

I was pointing out that if any thinking person were to follow the ten links you offered, he or she would quickly realize that most connections made in those links were influenced by PLANS propaganda, the work of extremists or even, ironically, complimentary to Steiner, such as the reference in Dr. Evan's book.

At no site you referenced is there a clear and objective correlation made between Rudolf Steiner and / or Anthroposophy and any widely accepted definition of the use of the word "cult" in any derogatory meaning.

Do you have any in which such a correlation is actually made?

Christine

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From: dottie zold
Date: Sat Mar 13, 2004 10:36 pm
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: Lisa's list of cults

--- golden3000997 wrote:

Lisa,

I really shouldn't have to explain this, but I was trying to show that it was a pretty mindless "exercise" on your part to attempt to justify the word "cult" in relationship to "Anthroposophy" by saying, "See, when I search for cult and Anthroposophy on the web I get lots of links!" Thereby inferring that Anthroposophy and cult are linked in definition and relationship.

Christine, tell her go cry me a river. It's the ol 'you caught me red handed and so I am going to change the subject on you'. Boohoo. I smelled a rat right away when you looked into it and then just thought 'who do you think you are fooling Lisa'. As if the critics are experts, although we do know that Dan Dugan considers himself to be one, and thank goodeness this was turned down by the courts, on who and what is a cult. As if they really had a cult experience as the meaning of the word is understood. As if.

And then this big baby whine 'oh I had some hope with you' yeah right more like I had some hope I might fool you is more like it. If only the critics lived up to what they preach about being forth coming on information. If only....

Dottie

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From: Tarjei Straume
Date: Sun Mar 14, 2004 4:25 am
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: Lisa's list of cults

Try doing a Google search on anthroposophy + pussy, anthroposophy + cumshot, etc. you'll get harcore porn sites with a vengeance against anthroposophy, or with a knack for teasing anthro's, I don't know.

Does that make anthroposophy a pornographic movement or a sex cult?

This argument about how many links you get by combining words on Google is not even worth commenting. The World Wide Web is not what it was only a few years ago. It has exploded, and anything goes out there. Every thought that pops into some people's heads are written in blogs or blobs or whatever, and it will show on the search engines. In addition, there is every kind of prank you can think of.

Tarjei
http://uncletaz.com/

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