Olivia Harrison / Dottie / Guru Bradford

 

From: dottie zold
Date: Thu Mar 18, 2004 7:12 pm
Subject: Olivia Harrison

Dear Friends,

I was driving today and was fortunate to have come upon an NPR radio station interview with George Harrisons wife. How beautiful she is.Really. To be able to find a mate who is totally in sync with ones heroic journey and facing the world together is a phenomina I do not know is all that appreciated or truly found in todays time.

In speaking on George she said he worked his whole life to be at one with God. That at the end of his life he would have wished to teach himself to come to that moment with God on his mind versus wondering if he had left the gate open for the cat to escape;) That to live ones life that grows deeper and more profound as each day goes on would be what he hoped to continue attaining. Each day.

In regards to the terrible stabbing that took place Olivia said she asked him what he thought of as those moments passed. He said he had thought 'someone is killing me in my own home, I am being murdered in my own home.' And then suddenly he said it occurred to him that he had to put his mind on God. And this is what he had taught himself his whole life, 'to keep his mind on God at the moment of death/birth. The idea that this is something one has to cultivate over the period of their life was something that hit home for me. It is not about suddenly at the end of ones life we begin to think on these things rather as we live our lives day to day and come to some understanding that deepens our human experience.

It was just so beautiful to hear her speak on it so matter of factly. She said that George had been training himself his whole life for this moment and when it came he recalled to put his mind on God. She said for her she had no thought. She just did what she did and that was to beat the guy off of George with the firepoke.

This interview led me to thinking about the critics and mostly I guess Diana and Peter as they are the ones we mostly have contact with. I hoped within my self that they leave open the possibility that there is such a thing as spiritual reality and that one day they may come to experience that moment when one is made aware of something more than this life. It is said that for certain people it comes at the most tragic moments as one finds they have no where else to turn and find themselves experiencing something that had never really occurred to them before. And many times it does wait until this moment. I guess that is just the way it is.

We all understand God in our own way. And I think the dogma has really pushed people away as it has many of my friends. It's funny because I am called to the point in the bible that many believed because of the Samaritan woman at the well and so it is with me and my friends. They do not believe per se rather they find themselves opening up to the possibility because there is freedom in my understanding and it is this I share with them. So, I guess I find myself hoping for them if their souls want to experience it in this lifetime that they are granted that desire. I hope for them and all my friends that the spirit will win the mind and not the mind the spirit if so it can be.

My thoughts on this Thursday evening,

Dottie

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From: bryan miller
Date: Fri Mar 19, 2004 6:06 am
Subject: Re: Olivia Harrison

Dottie,

Somebody else mentioned this interview to me yesterday, also very impressed by Olivia Harrison. She is an amazing lady. I missed the interview and it was a pleasant surprise this morning to read more details about it in your e-mail. And did you know that...(see next e-mail)

Bryan

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From: winters_diana
Date: Sat Mar 20, 2004 7:39 am
Subject: reply to Dottie

Dottie wrote:

This interview led me to thinking about the critics and mostly I guess Diana and Peter as they are the ones we mostly have contact with. I hoped within my self that they leave open the possibility that there is such a thing as spiritual reality

What makes you think I don't? What does that have to do with not liking anthroposophy? Personally, I am open to all sorts of possibilities, but since I like this life that I am living, I'm not wrapped up in "searching" to find out if there is "something more." I don't listen too closely to gurus claiming to have Solved All Mysteries and Explained the Universe for the simple reason that there are thousands of these people, mostly contradicting each other, and often proving not even to be very decent human beings. I am happy to be among those who Bradford says Still Don't Get It.

Diana

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From: dottie zold
Date: Sun Mar 21, 2004 11:23 am
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] reply to Dottie

Diana:

What makes you think I don't? What does that have to do with not liking anthroposophy?

Dear Diana,

My hope wasn't saying that you did not have thoughts about a spiritual reality just a hope that you did and this I hope for all my friends. I guess that is what I was really trying to say in that I hold you and Peter to be friends.

In regards to not liking anthroposophy that doesn't bother me in the least. Why should it? I don't think it relies on such a thing as you liking Anthroposophy or not. Each one has their own way. Sometimes we find others who walk the path with us and sometimes we don't. No matter. We are all on the path and their is no way off of it as far as I am concerned.

Diana:

Personally, I am open to all sorts of possibilities, but since I like this life that I am living, I'm not wrapped up in "searching" to find out if there is "something more."

Dottie:

And I think that is cool. But it seems in a way you deny others, such as the Steiner students their personal way in that they do so seek to find what you are not interested in looking at. Christ has a saying about the preachers blocking the door to the Kingdom and for me I discern it to mean, if you are not going to go through the door, get the hell out of the way. Don't stop others because you are unwilling. Now, I do not mean that specifically towards you just a thought about letting others find their path without ridiculing it for nothing other than you are not interested in looking further.

Diana:

I don't listen too closely to gurus claiming to have Solved All Mysteries and Explained the Universe for the simple reason that there are thousands of these people, mostly contradicting each other, and often proving not even to be very decent human beings.

Dottie

Again, I have to say I have not found you to be a great judge of things regarding people. You hold a pretty rigid view in as far as I can tell. And when talking about not being decent human beings are you speaking about the murderers, rapists, war mongers, molesters, thieves? Or are you speaking about people who have a different opinion than you do regarding spiritual realities?

Dottie

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From: VALENTINA BRUNETTI
Date: Sun Mar 21, 2004 12:37 am
Subject: R: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] reply to Dottie

----- Original Message -----
From: winters_diana
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 4:39 PM
Subject: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] reply to Dottie

Dottie wrote:

This interview led me to thinking about the critics and mostly I guess Diana and Peter as they are the ones we mostly have contact with. I hoped within my self that they leave open the possibility that there is such a thing as spiritual reality

What makes you think I don't? What does that have to do with not liking anthroposophy? Personally, I am open to all sorts of possibilities, but since I like this life that I am living, I'm not wrapped up in "searching" to find out if there is "something more." I don't listen too closely to gurus claiming to have Solved All Mysteries and Explained the Universe

Pls Can you quote where Steiner made a claim like this ??

A.

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From: winters_diana
Date: Mon Mar 22, 2004 6:39 pm
Subject: Dottie

Dottie wrote:

My hope wasn't saying that you did not have thoughts about a spiritual reality just a hope that you did and this I hope for all my friends. I guess that is what I was really trying to say in that I hold you and Peter to be friends.

Thank you, Dottie, I feel the same.

But it seems in a way you deny others, such as the Steiner students their personal way in that they do so seek to find what you are not interested in looking at.

How do I do that? I very much respect your way of looking at things, Dottie.

And if I am disrespectful on this list, I wonder what you think of some of the vulgarities and abuse that are heaped on critics here. Do you read all of your listmates' posts, Dottie?

Christ has a saying about the preachers blocking the door to the Kingdom and for me I discern it to mean, if you are not going to go through the door, get the hell out of the way.

Yes - he said the preachers were blocking the way. Think about it.

I surely hope you don't really believe I am blocking your way to heaven, Dottie.

Don't stop others because you are unwilling.

How could I stop others if I tried? And how do you see me trying to stop you from getting to heaven? Do you really think I want to stop you from going to heaven?

I wrote:

I don't listen too closely to gurus claiming to have Solved All Mysteries and Explained the Universe for the simple reason that there are thousands of these people, mostly contradicting each other, and often proving not even to be very decent human beings.

Dottie

And when talking about not being decent human beings are you speaking about the murderers, rapists, war mongers, molesters, thieves? Or are you speaking about people who have a different opinion than you do regarding spiritual realities?

I was saying that in general, I think it is good to be skeptical of gurus and spiritual teachers until they have proven themselves to be decent people, as they have no better track record (though no worse, either, I suppose) in terms of simple human decency than non-spiritual people. It does not matter whether you speak of terrible atrocities such as murder or rape, or lesser evils; throughout history, religious leaders have done these things in equal measure as other human beings. In my experience the most spiritual people are not talking about how spiritual they are; they are certainly not on listserves posting gleeful diatribes about upcoming cosmic confrontations with critics of their movement. (Nor figuring out how to silence their critics with talk of "hate groups." This stuff comes from the top of this movement, and it ain't spiritual, and Bradford's rants aren't either.)

Diana

P.S. to Andrea, apparently it was not obvious, but when I wrote about gurus who suggest they have Solved All Mysteries, I was referring to Bradford.

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From: dottie zold
Date: Tue Mar 23, 2004 5:43 am
Subject: Re: Dottie

Diana

How do I do that? I very much respect your way of looking at things, Dottie.

Hey Diana,

I don't feel disrespected by you at all. My thought is that you at times ridicule the way some others see things according to their experiences through Anthroposophy. Yet you say that all should be able to believe as they do and so forth. But it seems, not Anthroposophists. Just because you do not agree with their insights does not make them wrong.

Diana:

And if I am disrespectful on this list, I wonder what you think of some of the vulgarities and abuse that are heaped on critics here. Do you read all of your listmates' posts, Dottie?

Diana, it's funny to say about 'some of the vulgaritities' heaped on critics as I think my time on the critics was the worst I have experienced in my life time as an adult. To the point that when I saw Peter and Dugans name I just about had a heart attack. Seriously. Kopp with his ugliness and Gary with checking where I worked and where I lived and so forth and then putting it on line I mean it was the most hellacious experience along with the just viscousness of Debra, Lisa and Su. I can only really see one person you might consider being vulgar and you are pretty good at picking out his one liners, I don't know why you continue to read his posts if they bother you.

And I haven't found you to be disrespectful on this list at all. I mean there are a few 'pushed' moments between you and Daniel but for the most part that part of the way it goes on line and in these kinds of debates. What I am talking about is letting others have their own path with out ridiculing it if you do not choose to see if what they are studying has or can have an impact in your life. I get you have disagreements with Waldorf education and so forth but to take it further when you do not look openly to see if what Dr. Steiner brought has any relevance and to act as if you understand is pretty hypocritical in my eyes. If you are going to put up than do your inner homework that is required if you so care or just assume you may not know all you think you do in regards to Dr. STeiner and his teachings.

Dottie:

Christ has a saying about the preachers blocking the door to the Kingdom and for me I discern it to mean, if you are not going to go through the door, get the hell out of the way.

Diana:

Yes - he said the preachers were blocking the way. Think about it.

What that means Diana, is there are preachers who have the knowledge but refuse to share it and refuse to enter through the door. Dr. Steiner did neither of those things. First of all he 'unculted' the occult. He made what was hidden known. He did not require you to believe him he required one to do their own work. He not only shared his insights he as well went through the door. You may not know this but those who pursue this kind of work, whether it be Christian, Buddhist, Taoist or what have you know of what he spoke.

Diana:

I surely hope you don't really believe I am blocking your way to heaven, Dottie.

I think your teasing me here but in case you aren't let me just say that nobody can block my way to Heaven, whatever that is in your mind or others. I am free and am not dependant on what others think or do in regards to my own spiritual understandings.

My point again is if you are not going to enter into a personal work such as Dr. Steiners why criticize what you do not understand. Now, I get you think you understand but the truth is Diana you do not. I get you want to be able to say well this and this and this and this but it is easily seen by those who consider these spiritual realities that you do not. And so what? It's not that you cannot you choose that Dr. Steiners teachings are not for you. Okay.

And I get you are looking for your own way that is not dependant on anyone elses and we are both in the same boat it seems in regards to this point. I recognize the value of Dr. Steiners work and you do not. Okay. But I would be hard pressed to put anothers understanding down at this point in my life if I had not checked out the details and allowed my self to contemplate the inner realities of anothers work. I trust we all find our way and the most one can expect from me is to love them no matter what. And that is not a weakness but a strength I am aquiring through my working with the Christic understanding and highlighted by Dr. Steiners work.

Diana:

How could I stop others if I tried? And how do you see me trying to stop you from getting to heaven? Do you really think I want to stop you from going to heaven?

Diana, if you take my whole paragraph and understood it versus chopping up into these one liners I think we might have a conversation. This way it seems as if I am stating you are stopping others when you have no such power to do so. Even as Jesus said to Pilate 'if it was not given unto you by my Father, this you would not be doing'. My point is to say, if you are unwilling to search for the spiritual realities, Dr. Steiner spoke of, fine, but don't try to make others wrong for what you find unimportant and not your chosen thing to look on in this particular lifetime. They choose to look at these things and you do not. How can you pass judgement on a thing if you don't understand it? And you can not understand what is inside unless you look. You can have a feeling of such and such but Dr. Steiners work is no joke. It is freiken deep and ones own personal experiences bear him out to having done his homework. And there are things I could't even touch on and I actually choose not to, so on these particular points I do not even speak as I don't choose to do the homework: subjects such at they appear in his Occult Science book. It's not my particular study that I am interested in at this point in time.

Diana:

I was saying that in general, I think it is good to be skeptical of gurus and spiritual teachers until they have proven themselves to be decent people, as they have no better track record (though no worse, either, I suppose) in terms of simple human decency than non-spiritual people.

And I am one hundred percent in agreement with you on this. I am a big skeptic. It may not seem so as I speak on certain things and so forth. But I doubt even the angels that have appeared before me. I just do and I test and test until it just becomes ridiculous.

And, of the works I read of Dr. Steiner I am in no doubt what a great man he was. He was not perfect and none of us are. And I mean none of us. Dr. STeiners work in How To Know Higher Worlds, rocked my world and allowed me to concieve of a higher ideal for my life. I was able to see my self in most of his exercizes and I could feel how my life had run its course and how I found my self to be on a path most of my friends despise: Christianity. And I found him to be so funny and humble yet clear minded and powerful in his insights.

Most of my friends are atheist or agnostic and then a few born again Christians who just can't have the conversation with me as to them I am seeing devils when I have visions and not angels or whathave you. They do not think a normal person, other than a preacher, could have these experiences. And they are all human. I do not find that one is better than the other, believer or non believer.

Diana:

It does not matter whether you speak of terrible atrocities such as murder or rape, or lesser evils; throughout history, religious leaders have done these things in equal measure as other human beings.

I agree.

Diana:

In my experience the most spiritual people are not talking about how spiritual they are; they are certainly not on listserves posting gleeful diatribes about upcoming cosmic confrontations with critics of their movement.

Well, again Diana, how do you know? Really. We all do what we do. We all make mistakes and we all learn from our behaviour hopefully. I know it is an ongoing process. No one that I have seen in my lifetime has done it any differently. It's the no pain no gain thing. We are all learning from one another. I know the critics have offered me a very powerful lesson in communication and what one shares and what one does not and so forth. I've learned I am not perfect and that I can get angry as all hell still. I learned to express my self in that forum and I got to see how I am not above getting ugly my self. And it was very powerful for me to realize this. And so I work on continuing to be in touch with the highest ideal I can have of my self. And it is freaken tough.

One wants to share their experiences and it is on line that we can do that. I know for me I am thankful there is a group that understands, other than my whole Mary/Lazarus/John shctik I got going on:)what I am speaking on. That there is a group that thinks on the same things I do in regards to a higher reality and how one can come to experience it. I am comforted by knowing other like minded people who look to these things that add to my already growing list of contemplations:)

Diana:

(Nor figuring out how to silence their critics with talk of "hate groups." This stuff comes from the top of this movement, and it ain't spiritual, and Bradford's rants aren't either.)

Well, Dugan makes it sure hard not to put one in a hate group the way he has handled himself in regards to Anthroposophy. Really. He gets all these funny people, whose spiritual beliefs he scoffs at, and then grabs Peter by the tail and has this nazi thing going on as can be seen by his disgusting press release and other writings, that one does begin to wonder what effect this will have on children of Waldorf when out in the real world with such wacked writings on a group he disagrees with.

And no one is trying to silence no one. I mean this is a group that has opened itself up for the critics to be involved in if they so wish. And for the most part I find it to be very respectful other than some boyish pranks here and there. If anything it is Dugan on a rampage trying to link a spiritual group to the Nazis and Peters polemic trying to say that Anthroposophy is racist to the core. Which is just bonkers. As if the students of today are ignorant of what racism is. These are intelligent people who study this mans work for many many years and it is used against them. But of course an atheist, humanist and free thinker understand the spiritual works better. Hogwash Diana.

Sincerely,
Dottie

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From: Jo Ann Schwartz
Date: Tue Mar 23, 2004 12:24 pm
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Dottie

Diana wrote:

P.S. to Andrea, apparently it was not obvious, but when I wrote about gurus who suggest they have Solved All Mysteries, I was referring to Bradford.

Thanks for clearing that up, Diana. (Like Andrea, it wasn't clear to me to whom you were referring in that little rant.)

Er.... if you wouldn't mind, could you clear up just one more thing? Whom, exactly, do you think treats Bradford as their 'guru'? twinkle

Musing on the changing nature of All Mysteries.....

JoAnn

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From: winters_diana
Date: Tue Mar 23, 2004 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: Dottie

JoAnn:

Thanks for clearing that up, Diana. (Like Andrea, it wasn't clear to me to whom you were referring in that little rant.)

Gee, I know I do rant sometimes, but that hurts, JoAnn :) I looked back at that post and it is just 5 sentences long.

Er.... if you wouldn't mind, could you clear up just one more thing? Whom, exactly, do you think treats Bradford as their 'guru'? twinkle

I would clear it up for you if I could, JoAnn, but I don't know how I could possibly know how the rest of you understand Bradford.

Shrilly,
Diana

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From: Jo Ann Schwartz
Date: Tue Mar 23, 2004 6:11 pm
Subject: Guru Bradford (was: Dottie)

JoAnn:

Thanks for clearing that up, Diana. (Like Andrea, it wasn't clear to me to whom you were referring in that little rant.)

Diana

Gee, I know I do rant sometimes, but that hurts, JoAnn :) I looked back at that post and it is just 5 sentences long.

JoAnn:

Well, just something about the phrasing "gurus claiming to have Solved All Mysteries and Explained the Universe" that seemed a bit on the rantish side to me. No worries.

JoAnn:

Er.... if you wouldn't mind, could you clear up just one more thing? Whom, exactly, do you think treats Bradford as their 'guru'? twinkle

Diana:

I would clear it up for you if I could, JoAnn, but I don't know how I could possibly know how the rest of you understand Bradford.

JoAnn:

Well, mostly I follow Frank's advice, and only read his (Frank's) posts! <G> Seriously, I don't know of anyone in the online anthroposophical community that considers Bradford their "guru".... admittedly, I don't know everyone -- but I've been around the Steiner internet for over 10 years now, so I do know a fair number of folks.

Shrilly,
Diana

Diana, you seem tense. Take a stress pill, Diana. Diana....

Musing on 2004: an inner space odyssey ....

JoAnn

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From: winters_diana
Date: Tue Mar 23, 2004 7:26 pm
Subject: Re: Guru Bradford (was: Dottie)

JoAnn:

Well, just something about the phrasing "gurus claiming to have Solved All Mysteries and Explained the Universe" that seemed a bit on the rantish side to me. No worries.

You mean because I adopted Bradford's style of hypercapitalization? I'm an editor and I always notice capitalization. If you just go back through your post and capitalize every third or fourth word, the way Bradford does, a whole different effect can be created :)

JoAnn:

Well, mostly I follow Frank's advice, and only read his (Frank's) posts! <G>

Well, if that is supposed to explain anything, I'm sorry, I am not enough in the loop to know what you are talking about.

but I've been around the Steiner internet for over 10 years now,

Geez, you poor thing. No rest for the weary.

Seriously, I don't know of anyone in the online anthroposophical community that considers Bradford their "guru"....

Okay, well, glad we cleared that up. :) I don't care if people follow Bradford as a guru, it is all right with me. I have been having some fun reading Bradford and musing over Bradford's oratorical style for some time now. (I can only muse over his style, since I rarely have any idea what he's talking about, and I have a tendency not to read articles that people post, not to mention song lyrics, poetry, etc.) Whether anyone is following Bradford as a guru, I don't know, but he certainly styles himself as one, from use of the royal "we" and referring to himself in the third person, to the general stream-of- consciousness speaking forth of revealed truths preacher-style, to the general tendency not to actually reply to other people (more often he actually replies to his own posts). It's all very interesting.

Diana, you seem tense. Take a stress pill, Diana. Diana....

It's just my personality, JoAnn. Don't worry, I am no more tense today than usual. :) Too tired for more fun and games tonight, though. I'll reply in my usual shrill style to Tarjei and Dottie and Daniel tomorrow. Dottie, I see that your name has already been removed from critics list headings.

Diana

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From: VALENTINA BRUNETTI
Date: Wed Mar 24, 2004 1:04 am
Subject: R: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Dottie

----- Original Message -----
From: Jo Ann Schwartz
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Dottie

Diana wrote:

P.S. to Andrea, apparently it was not obvious, but when I wrote about gurus who suggest they have Solved All Mysteries, I was referring to Bradford.

Uhu!! Totally wrong statement in my opinion.

Bradford??

Bradford is a guy who writes in a pretty personal, poetic, somewhat obscure way. He plays his song by the way of flashes, images, color's pictures, with no systemacity at all.

In spite of it all he was (and is) able to open new insights about lots of spiritual matters (tks Brad!) mostly, for instance about the Risen Christ's gesture and its link with the "atomic table " matter and the Fallen Light realm.

He is a creative guy just the opposite of a dogmatic tribune : so he got really the opposite gesture of the "guru who solved all the Mysteries", On the contrary I found out the dogmatic gesture - so typical in the Ahrimainic infected brains- in the way that Pedro "Ctuhlu Head" Paviglianti-Staudenmaier plays his broken- record- songs (a couple of chords and go!!|) that are so welcomed by the inhabitants of the Land of the Lie.

A.

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From: Tarjei Straume
Date: Wed Mar 24, 2004 1:53 am
Subject: Dreaming of Gurus (was: Dottie)

At 10:04 24.03.2004, Andrea wrote:

Diana wrote:

P.S. to Andrea, apparently it was not obvious, but when I wrote about gurus who suggest they have Solved All Mysteries, I was referring to Bradford.

Uhu!! Totally wrong statement in my opinion.

Well, only to a certain extent. Bradford has solved a very important Mystery for me: The Mystery of what Peter S wants with all those philo-Semitic anti-Semites he is chasing. And Bradford, I understand, saw Peter S trying to push as many of them as possible into a bug, in a dream of his. Bradford is a poet, and in order to be a poet, you have to have plenty of rich dreams, as they said in ancient Greece in the days of Homer.

Diana is also a poet, dreaming about cults and gurus, and in an especially enlightened visionary dream, she sees Bradford in a long white Indian robe "Solving All Mysteries" as she puts it. Peter S dreams about philo-Semitic anti-Semites, Bradford dreams about Peter S, and Diana dreams about Bradford. As Bob Dylan put it in "Talkin' World War III Blues":

Well, now time passed and now it seems
Everybody's having them dreams.
Everybody sees themselves walkin' around with no one else.
Half of the people can be part right all of the time,
Some of the people can be all right part of the time.
But all the people can't be all right all the time
I think Abraham Lincoln said that.
"I'll let you be in my dreams if I can be in yours,"
I said that.

That's wisdom, folks, from Guru Dylan - whom I saw in an acid trip vision of mine thirty-three years ago, but that's a different story - when he says that "I'll let you be in my dreams if I can be in yours." So when Bradford lets Peter S be in his dream, I think it's nice that Diana lets Bradford be in hers. Don't you?

Bradford??

Yeah, he's the guru in Diana's dream allright. In a white Indian robe, I guess, because that's how I dream of gurus. Diana's dream may have been a nightmare, however, because as Guru Dylan tells us in another song of his, "When Are You Gonna Wake Up?":

Spiritual advisors and gurus to guide your every move,
Instant inner peace and every step you take has got to be approved.

When you gonna wake up, when you gonna wake up
When you gonna wake up and strengthen the things that remain?

That's what Diana is afraid of: A guru who guides our every move and has to approve every step we make. And who knows, instant inner peace may be something deadly dangerous, because it does indeed sound ominous. And Bradford is Diana's suspect, not to be trusted. The poet who solved the Mystery of Peter's Volkswagen dream may be sitting behind the wheel, and who knows where's he's taking us poor philo-Semitic anti-Semitic souls unless Peter is doing the driving, bringing us straight to the funny farm where the doctors are waiting.

- Are you aluminiuming'em my man?
- No I'm copperbottoming'em mom.
- In the laboratory?
- No in the lobotorium.

Cheers,

Tarjei
http://uncletaz.com/

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From: Mike Helsher
Date: Wed Mar 24, 2004 6:22 am
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Dreaming of Gurus

Speaking of dreaming:

About a year and a half ago, I was really reading into the POF, and trying to participate in an e-mail study group that was reading it as well, on top of talking to a walking anthroposophical library eurhythmist friend of mine on a regular basis about the correlation between Love and thinking that RS accentuates in so much of his writings (a convenient fact that Peter S loves to minimize).

Around this time I had the following lucid-dream experience. I call it "The Crystal of Love:"

I had found a beautiful bright and shining crystal
glowing with light from within
I held it close and traveled through dark dirty streets
where angry drug addicted people were scouring and trying to attack
but they could not harm me
for the light and power of the crystal was like a shield
that they could not penetrate, and it left them scared and in awe
I moved to a swamp and contemplated the lotus flowers
that were coming up out of the mud
my reflection glistening on the surface of the water
as I stooped to touch a blooming flower
next I traveled to a great hall, where twelve kings sat
each dressed in there own magnificent royal clothing
sitting in there own beautiful ornate thrones
I held up the crystal before them
and a warm light shined through us all
like no light I have ever known
the kings all smiled at me
and we had intimate conversations about Love and freedom
of which I have no memory

Truth and Love

Mike

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