On War

 

From: dottie zold
Date: Tue Mar 16, 2004 6:47 am
Subject: On War 1 Part 1

Dear Friends,

I am reading a wonderful book on Dr. Steiner by some students of his in the early years. One section speaks on their experiences of what is was like to be artists of various nations in Switzerland where Dr. Steiner was working on the Goetheanum.

I was reading this passage at a little Paris breakfast shoppe with very small tables sitting next to one another. I noticed a man in his sixties trying to figure out if he should sit down right next and across from me. He finally decided to sit and I felt him look over to me and I just kept reading. I turn a page and he says 'oh my goodness is that the Goetheanum you are reading about. And I said yes it is but actually I am reading a book on Dr. Steiner. And he said 'Yes, Dr. Steiner I know of him he founded the Waldorf schools, you know there is one right around the corner and all my friends and colleagues and clients send their children to this school. So, I told him it was refreshing to hear someone say that as I am in the midst of a great debate regarding these schools dumbing the children down and Dr. Steiner being a racist. And he said 'no, its just the opposite. These are the most well rounded young people I have ever met. They all go to great colleges and have great friends and are knowledgeable about the arts and philosophy. It really is an amazing education.' His client friend showed up and I just about fell off my chair to see who it was. Needless to say we have a wonderful conversation and here he is a man who has the whole works of Goethe in German gifted to him by a client of his in Germany.

All this leads me to thinking on how Dugan used to allude to the point that Steiner should have done more to stop the War in World War 1. It got really silly to the point where I asked him what would have been good enough for Dugan, was it that Dr. Steiner should have put himself on the front lines? It's interesting to see all the Monday night quarterbacking that goes on about this war and this is not even the great war that took place 15 years after Dr. Steiner was already not with us in the physical world. To discuss these matters as if there were no real human feelings is a travesty to the people who lived during those times.

Reminniscences : Andrei Belyi page 51

The first task Steiner charged us with in Dornach, immediately after war broke out, as the care of the wounded. He mobilized everybody who knew anything about it and asked that we take a course in first aid. At that time there was no way of predictiong which direction the actions would take. We were situated directly at the border. For a week everybody expected the war to extend to Switzerland as well. The German cannons in Baden were already turned our way, since the French army unit stationed close to the border might penetrate Swiss territory during its retreat to Belfort, a French fortification, and thus violate Swiss neutrality. The units would march through our valley and Baden would open fire on Arlesheim and Dornach. This was obvious to the Doctor from the beginning, and he induced us to learn how to bandage and transport casualities.

A mood of panic predominated; people ran screaming out of their houses into the street. The nearby thunder of the cannons would not cease; it was rumored that the border had already been crossed and that there was street fighting in Basel. General mobilization began in Switzerland; the federal trains and streetcars were to be employed for military purposes as soon as fighing should break out on Swiss soil. The civilian population was to evacuate into the mountans after the alarm was sounded; the defences of Switerzland was to start past a point above Dornach; directly above the Goetheanum artillery was positioned. Our whole area was turned over to the war.

People packed, vehicles were made ready in preparation for ligth into the mountains. One day we were called into the canteen, asked to have money and lugge within hand-reach, and to sleep fully clothed at night. The alarm was expected during the night. We were to gather in front of the canteen and then proceed into the mountains together with the Doctor.

He was taciturn, calm and sad. We usually saw him in the canteen where we met at lunchtime, for afternoon tea, and into the evenings. At other times he had rarely been there, but now he came daily, walked about among us, or sat down somwehere on a bench. He looked infinitely tired. He came for no obvious reason; he only wished to give us courage with his presence.

But it became clear: life in Dornach, the Goetheanum, we all were in danger.

I remember a meeting with him; it was during the hours when we heard the first boom of the cannons. We knew - there was war. But we had the feeling it was far, far away; Switzerland is a neutral country and we have a roof over our heads.

But suddenly one evening after work, AAt and I went down hill to Arlesheim; in front of us the peaceful little house of Dornach, beyond it the distance, the flat country. There, on rare days, one can see the mountain ridges of Alsace, though usually the plain dissolves in haze; but what is that? Thunder? An odd, short rumble. The line of haze is different; is that rain? Is that fog? Or smoke? Probably a thunderstorm coming up - and below, between Dornach and the hills, stands a lone black figure. Someone has stopped on the street with bent head, irresolute, as if listening. What is he waiting for? The thunder perhaps? We look at each other; Why that is the Doctor! But why is he like this - without his accustomed certainity? Why does he hesitate and seem not to know whether to go on or not? He remains standing and listens to the thunder. Is this indeed actually thunder? We are in Switzerland, in a peaceful country; it cannot be otherwise. I don't even want to think the thought that begins to form. The Doctor, who has seen us, waits for us: Without greeting, he points with his eyes into the rumbling distance, and I hear his deep voice: "The roar of the cannons?" There can be no doubt - that is artillery. There was fighing around Basel about this time and a French army unit was being pushed off towards the Swiss border.

It was the thunder of cannons. The three of us stood there in silence, then we wanted to go on. He barely acknowledged our farewells and went on with lowerd head, undecided, his ear still turned towards the direction of the dull rumble.

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From: dottie zold
Date: Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:21 am
Subject: On War 1 Part 2

Remininsces Belyi page 53

The first reaction to the war; we must commit ourselves more emphatically to our common cause; all of us - Russian, Germans, Austrians, French, Poles - we are all brothers in misfortune, we are all victims of criminal politics; our 'politics' was devotion to the common cause, determinatino to continue building. When Strauss, the Bavarian, was drafted and had to join the services as a medical aide, he noted down as many Russian words as possible so he would be able to help wounded Russian prisoners. The motto that united us was "Love, Solidarity, Responsibility."

(...)

page 55;

The outbreak of the war brought Steiner new, special problems; he had to guide the outbreaks of nationalistic sentiment into sensible directions. Three weeks later the first momentum of our spontaneous solidarity was quite evidenly broken. All through September and through all of October the storms in the canteen did not abate: The British and the Russians gathered together in little groups, the Germans often insisted very tactlessly that the war had been instigated by the provocative attitude of England; the Russians countered with the statement that a branch of neutrality amounts to barbarism. Soon, theoretical debates changed to concrete incidents and endangered the whole life of Dornach. Schuré's withdrawal from the Anthroposophical Society, the nasty rumors out of France via the French part of Switzerland, the duplicity of some Poles - all this had very negative effects. All eyes were on the Doctor; one secretly hoped that he would at last state: "Germany is in the right!" or "Germany is to blame for all catastrophes!" However, he did not acuse a single country, only the mendacity of the press; and he recommended that one not believe the sensational news and instead work undauntedly on the human aspect of true culture...Everybody waited tensely for an unequivocal gesture. "

Dottie

It's funny reading this book after hearing all the 'your guru' comments from the critics. It seems that Dr. Steiner did not rule with an iron hand as some of the critics will have one believe. In this book by three various artists who lived and or worked around Dr. Steiner during his lifetime it is clear that many of the decisions he left up to the people who so involved themselves in the community. He was overruled quite a bit in regards to various functions and artistic elements of the Gotheanum. It reminds me of my early projects and how I wanted to have control of my what I had put into motion. Somehow along the lines I realized that in order to work with a group that will help me accomplish my goal of not raising another generation of kids on the streets I needed to allow others their own part in my dream. And so it was with Dr. Steiner.

Dottie

p.s. I am just realizing that my speed typing:) was not checked before I sent part 1. I am not looking forward to seeing what I sent out that is for sure.

[Editorial comment: We've tried to correct the typos that Dottie is referring to.]

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From: holderlin66
Date: Tue Mar 16, 2004 9:04 am
Subject: Re: On War 1 Part 1

dottie zold wrote:

Dottie;

A simply wonderful post. I wish to thank you. As a student at the Goetheanum, castles sprinkle the landscape, and concrete tank barricades are in valleys when you went walking through the cherry tree orchards. The Canteen, where I met Willi Sucher and so many other friends, sits below the mighty Goetheanum. The Powerful School of the I AM, having had to move to the one neutral spot where the I AM could survive. And having gathered the International community of souls on the island of the I AM - [read Shakespeare's Tempest] the Goetheanum, the replica in Wood of the mighty Cosmic history of the I AM in mankind, was burnt to the ground, ruins as a testimony to the shattered wreck of German Idealism. SHATTERED WRECK OF GERMAN IDEALISM!!!!!

Looking out towards the west today is a huge stained glass window, looking into the distant west, the stained glass window/ reddish, with Iron and Michael in the blood, depicts the ARChai and active Time Spirit, ZEITGEIST, Michael. The houses, dotting the surroundings, with their unique architecture were hobbit hollows long before hobbit hollows became popular. Gandalf or Rudolf was known through Owen Barfield, C.S. Lewis, A.C. Harwood and Tolkien.

"General mobilization began in Switzerland; the federal trains and streetcars were to be employed for military purposes as soon as fighing should break out on Swiss soil. The civilian population was to evacuate into the mountans after the alarm was sounded; the defences of Switerzland was to start past a point above Dornach; directly above the Goetheanum artillery was positioned. Our whole area was turned over to the war."

Bradford thanks you;

You're right Dottie, the unhistorical, unreal depleted emotional content and utter gross ineptitude of these pond scum feeders, fail time and time again to get a sense of the mighty events that happened in that time frame. History was getting sockode, ahriman's freight train was on a collison course. Humanity had the threatening I AM capacity and the Christ Event on the table and each lecture was a cringing nightmare in the ahrimanic.

That is why from "Jesus to Christ" scared them, and if we enter into the Science aspects of the Father entering as Light forces into the blood of Jesus at the Transfiguration, we scare the crap out of them. Fission, Fusion and higher aspects of how the Seraphim, Cherubim and Thrones descended into this swirling blood, as NEW SUN in the single human being, or St. Francis [sorry Francis was what I have meant], scares the crap out of these people. They don't want us to really let everyone on the planet know about nuclear energy and Ahriman's "Church of the UnRisen Light". Nor do they want anyone to know about the actual levels of higher I AM development, graduate studies in Earth that Buddha is a degree level as is "Initiate" a reality and Gandalf attended the School of Middle Earth.

Inside the meanderings of souls, just like with Iraq, bashing the French, the Germans and patriotic bullshit was the coin of the realm struggling round the Goetheanum as well. The world was in a state of "Casablanca". When poor Paris fell and the Love went out of Humphrey Bogart, ideals were given over to the goose stepping beast.

Now that beast lived in motives just like Peter's and Dan's. The intellectual cynicism they swim in and passing down stream in time, offer their perverse thoughts against the human spirit, seeding younger souls with the nonsense and bitterness they carry as cultural sickness.

Indeed, to trace the source of the illness that they research, Steiner does play a part, the part of the cure. The disease is what humanity got, when Idealism was Shattered over the heads of Europe. Disease is what they got when the I AM fragments could not be served up with warm enthusiasm of Archangelic Languages rejoicing in humanities spirit.

"you can feel his disease
Come together right now over me"

One has to always replay and re-understand that powerful statement, "They know not what they do!" Again, if there was any sense of history, the depth of what Steiner was bringing, directly into Munich, against the depth of what Ahriman festered and swarmed into brains, after 1879, when Michael had exiled these cretures into the human environment...history would follow a thread that sees, and who has stepped up and painted what Germany would have become? Instead we wallow in the crash and collapse of culture while the cure is still lingering.

The twin towers collapsing was terrible to watch yet it is an ancient Tower of Babel and Shattering of the Germanic potential image. Steiner had in the Folk Souls and all of his work, the uniting of the tongues, the different languages and Races under the new I AM. This failed tower of Babel - (which translates into Pentecost and the tongues of flame) was growing as an offered capacity of the I AM. It would not have been some failed League of Nations or U.N. But the thought sphere, the I AM and thinking sphere reaching into the community of nations, where Archangelic Beings awaited gifts from the humanity that had encountered the Christ. Why? Because the Archangelic Beings will also evolve through humanity because the Christ came to Earth. Humanity has the task of even educating and bringing forward Higher Beings, because of the Christ.

It is clear that Peter and Diana really have not come to terms with either simple Jesus or Cosmic Christ. I ask you? How could they when history has become so distorted. While my Anthrobabble may be hard to understand, it is right on the very cutting edge of real history. The great editorial and intellectual giant, Peter S, has not given his final judgement on this Christ Event, this minor event in history. Therefore please eat his diet of Anthrax for the brain until great St. Peter decides that maybe there was a God. Well it is going to be a cold day in August before Peter gets any juice but I don't see that Peter is to blame, "He is not self conscious, self- aware or inwardly awake enough to know what he does." and he is not alone in such failed revisionism of downgrading human intelligence instead of raising it.

Bradford

Dottie, just nice work and well done.

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From: holderlin66
Date: Tue Mar 16, 2004 12:08 pm
Subject: Re: On War 1 Part 1

holderlin66 wrote:

The Powerful School of the I AM, having had to move to the one neutral spot where the I AM could survive. And having gathered the International community of souls on the island of the I AM - [read Shakespeare's Tempest] the Goetheanum, the replica in Wood of the mighty Cosmic history of the I AM in mankind, was burnt to the ground, ruins as a testimony to the shattered wreck of German Idealism. SHATTERED WRECK OF GERMAN IDEALISM!!!!!

Tarjei's very precise understanding:

"From Schopenhauer he took fatalism and the idea of the will, but he forgot the Buddhism and the pessimism. From Nietzsche he took the concept of evolution, the will to power, and the Übermensch, but he forgot that this Übermensch should not conquer his fellow man, but himself. He took from Wagner the racism, heroism, and paganism, but he forgot the Arianized Christianity. Further, he took from Helena Blavatsky (the pioneer of spiritual evolution) and other occultists what he wanted and conveniently forgot everything that did not harmonize with his own world view."

[WC reference: http://uncletaz.com/wc/wcthreads/hitlerread.html ]

Tarjei

Bradford German Idealims shattered!

Fatalism and Free Will; SuperMan-Ubermensch and the Higher Self or Angelic community; Wagner Racism and Paganism- Consciousness Soul imaginations and the foundations of the Magna Carta; Aryan nonsense - early pioneer of I AM history of humanity; Nietzsche God is Dead; all of these are history lessons in the shattering of human idealism. Because DENIAL and dysfunction seem not to apply to you, well we got news for you sweetie.

Diana and so many others have had no experience in understanding how Steiner encouraged everyone to read the philosphers, understand the shifting field of paradigms in Idealsm or Non-idealism that were struggling for a perception of the I AM. Steiner's POF is ground zero in freeing up misconceptions. The POF is certainly not a text that preaches Spiritual Science. It is a delicate focus on the mighty currents of Intelligence that could fall either way, any way, and shatter the growing perception of how the I AM lives in thinking. It treads a path to lead the I AM out of its terminal state of denial.

It is fine for any of us to raise a family, read the papers and be totally ignorant of how the dots connect. You have been too lazy to face your own denial. This tells any observer that the person isn't inspired about knowing if the I AM exists. If humanity and all that was claimed of its great potential is true or false. Otherwise these wishy washy fence sitting babies want us to debate their darkness. Or they have already temporarily given up on the issue until some relative reports from their NDE or some child says, momma I dreamt I was speaking another language and you weren't my mommy.

Fundamentalism of all sorts plays into these pre-determined rest stops where thinking cannot go further. Thinking does not go further because the universities failed to understand history or understand God and the evolution of the I AM. Stopping at Biblical hypocrisy is something that seems to upset all of us, in both camps, across the boards. But weeding through the threads was made easier with Steiner's POF. Or any simple interest in humanity beyond your selfish desire for a little Marxist book deal would reveal the deep foundations of what is being proclaimed here.

When it comes to the utilitarian disease of Americanism, Americans are untrained and lazy and tend to get caught in all the traps that Tarjei indicated. While I don't give a shit that Bush doesn't read the papers, I would have advisers too, but Bush is a prime example of the failed American. But these traps of the Shattered Idealism that surrounded the Germanic Capacity to Think, were reverse paths that scattered attention away from the I AM. Americans weren't too interested in seeing the hidden story behind the atrocities that the failed Germanic image represented. So people think they do not fear God, but they are dreadfully hoping nobody will spot what lazy, unripe, faulty misrepresentations they make, so that they can cruise along as if Steiner did not happen. As if they understand what was at stake in the nightmare over Europe.

These massive misreprentations of history are filled with accepted thinking offshoots that are riddled with errors. However when people say Philosophy, they imagine that among the number of aspects of thinking about reality, Philosophy is some game. This game has become "Political Science" and Spin and remains as destructive now as it was at the time of Steiner. To enter a university and encounter the twisted wreckage of Idealism in humanity, washed on the rocks of cultural materialism imputes power to the cunning and brainless like those existing as NEOCONS today.

Rumsfeld 'Old Europe' New Europe. Let him eat Spain, New Germany and France and let them rise as one component of the mighty Threefold world that so scares the crap out of Peter. These NEOCON thinkers from the School of Weimar's Leo Stauss get right back to the point of failed, utterly failed, thinking that remains ruining humanity and ruining the souls who are too lazy to really encounter their own doubts.

There stands, in the mirage behind these shattered events of the 20th century, derailed and dead end thought life and thought systems that masquerade as Philosophy and History. Coming to terms with a complete delusion is re-experiencing the Shattering of Idealism in the soul and the ultimate tragedy that hung over Europe. But cowards do not wish to meet that. Steiner encouraged us to meet every Philosophy and every spun idea with the insights we can gain from the I AM. Because thinking could be traced back and identified, just as Tarjei has done and it should be detailed even clearer.

So, it is true that laziness and delusion do not equate with lying. Because by destroying the pathway to understanding the I AM and diverting culture with monumental catastrophe, Principalities and Powers, SUPERBEINGS behind the scenes, understood full well the type of Earth uplifting reality that is in the higher aspects of thinking. All members of the Michael School are requested and required to view the immense cross currents of thought and learn to navigate them. All lazy, unexplored and foolish humans are required to find a little belief system and ideology and take cover and hide themselves while mountains fall upon them.

Then we have those who under condensed hatred toward the hypocrisy they never bothered to penetrate with their thinking, go rabid in denial of all great things, because great things can't exist because they haven't been taught or cohesively understand how to approach the profound sweep of the mighty history of their own Immortal I AM. Some stupidly imagine God is gonna do the thinking for them. Some betray the immortal part of their I AM and refuse to see anything but the chaotic wreckage of the debris of human culture left over from the ravages of the 20th century.

It boils down to the soil, the race, the language, the geographic location where the I AM learns to flower into the Spirit. The difference between the soil and the Immortal core reveals the whole nightmare that slammed Germany and the Freight Train that was loaded with an Industiralized inhuman cargo of fatally impressing on humanity the stigma of Ethnic Cleansing. The soil of the immortal Core of the I AM was built on the true mission of German Idealism or the fetching headlines of debased Racial theories of Hitler and company. Give up your immortal I AM quest for it is shouted down from every gasping dead fish who thought they really GOT IT!

Clearly, Steiner is the cure not the disease. But in order to find the cure you have to imagine that you can attack Steiner because of your hatred towards your own laziness and your own betrayal of understanding that humans are indeed immortal and true miracles have happened on Earth...Buddha and St. Francis.

Bradford

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From: Tarjei Straume
Date: Mon Mar 22, 2004 4:12 am
Subject: Hitler's reading technique (was: On War 1 Part 1)

At 21:08 16.03.2004, Bradford wrote:

Tarjei's very precise understanding:

"From Schopenhauer he took fatalism and the idea of the will, but he forgot the Buddhism and the pessimism. From Nietzsche he took the concept of evolution, the will to power, and the Übermensch, but he forgot that this Übermensch should not conquer his fellow man, but himself. He took from Wagner the racism, heroism, and paganism, but he forgot the Arianized Christianity. Further, he took from Helena Blavatsky (the pioneer of spiritual evolution) and other occultists what he wanted and conveniently forgot everything that did not harmonize with his own world view."

I'll have to give credit where credit is due here: The source of the above description of Adolf Hitler's reading technique is Gerald Suster's book, "Hitler: Black Magician". It's one of those books I borrowed when I wrote that article about Nazi occultism (in Norwegian) eight years ago: http://www.uncletaz.com/norsktaz/nazi.html

It's amazing how many times it's been called for to remind people of how Hitler thought and how he put his ideology together. Absolutely amazing. Christian fundies blame the holocaust Charles Darwin and HPB, atheists blame it on Christianity, and Dan Dugan blames it on Rudolf Steiner because he spoke about how blue eyes are related to [spiritual] intelligence, and just like PS, DD seems to promote the impression that RS did not speak to an intimate gathering of AS members who had acquired a solid understanding of Anthroposophy during many years, but to some kind of crowd reminiscent of Hitler's Nürenberg rallies.

Tarjei
http://uncletaz.com/

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From: DByron
Date: Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:35 am
Subject: Hitler's reading technique (was: On War 1 Part 1)

Hello Tarjei--Is there no english translation of your article available?

Deborah

Tarjei Straume wrote:

"Hitler: Black Magician". It's one of those books I borrowed when I wrote that article about Nazi occultism (in Norwegian) eight years ago: http://www.uncletaz.com/norsktaz/nazi.html

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From: Tarjei Straume
Date: Thu Mar 25, 2004 8:52 am
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Hitler's reading technique

At 17:35 22.03.2004, Deborah wrote:

Hello Tarjei--Is there no english translation of your article available?

No. Whenever someone asks about that, I just point to the sources/references that I used, most of which are published in English:

Nigel Pennick: "Hitler´s Secret Sciences" (primary source)

Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke: "The Occult Roots of Nazism"

James Webb: "The Occult Establishment"

Gerald Suster: "Hitler: Black Magician"

Bodil Stenseth: "Sangerinnen: Cally Monrads liv og kunst"

"Fascism: A Reader´s Guide"

Göts Aly, Peter Chroust og Christian Pross: "Cleansing the Fatherland"

Tarjei
http://uncletaz.com/

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