From: Tarjei Straume
Date: Sat Nov 8, 2003 11:42 am
Subject: WE and disclosure to parents
Christine
wrote:
Then he brought forward Waldorf Education
as a revolutionary act, a subversive act - it has the express
intention of making at least a homeopathic element of society
ready for the Threefold Social Order. To say otherwise is a lie.
Many Waldorf schools, teachers and promoters are liars and I
will say that to their faces. The time for politely hiding the
truth from the parents and even teachers who come to them and
to deny that what they are doing may be very dangerous in the
future is a real crime.
And Frank
responded:
I taught at a Waldorf school, and still
teach a course at the Teachers Training Seminar in Buenos Aires.
Maybe I'm not one of your liars, maybe I am. I could judge that
if you would tell me what the hell you're talking about. You
sound like one of those creeps at Plans.
Well, Frank, the "creeps" you're
talking about are the ones I call "hardcore critics"
attacking everything anthroposophical with a vengeance and depicting
RS as a despicable and revolting kind of person. Christine is
apparently a lover of anthroposophy and of Rudolf Steiner. Some
of the criticism against Waldorf schools may be legitimate. When
I was debating such issues on the WC list, I did concede that
parents deserved to be better informed about what anthroposophy
is about if they wanted this information. And I agreed
that at least in some cases, this responsibility may have been
neglected by Waldorf administrations in order to boost enrollments
without bothering to discuss existential philosophy with prospective
parents who walks in. And to make things easy, some such administrators
or registrars or whatever they are (WE is not my bag) may have
been - well, not quite upfront and honest in all cases.
So go a little easy on Christine. I kinda
like her, because when she talks about Rudolf Steiner the radical
revolutionary, she's taking words out of my mouth. She's a child
of Anarchosophia, Anthroposophia's radical sister, just like
me.
There's a WC file on my site entitled "Steiner/Waldorf/Anthroposophy
Disclosure to Parents":
Cheers,
Tarjei
http://uncletaz.com/
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From: golden3000997
Date: Sat Nov 8, 2003 12:05 pm
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] WE and disclosure to parents
Oooh Taz, I feel like like I've got a real
knight in shining armor defending me! : ) LOL!
I just posted a bit to Dottie, but addressed
Frank trying to clarify my position on Waldorf Educators being
upfront.
When I get the piece I told Frank about (It's
56 pages and I either have to type it or scan it at work subversively)
I think you will get more insight on RS's political position
in 1917. I want to get into it, but I think you (all) need to
ready the complete transcript, not just pieces or else you will
think I am just taking things out of context. I think the manuscript
that I have a copy of is not one in general circulation, but
I may be wrong. This is what I have:
The Founding of the First Waldorf School In
Stuttgart
Transcript of Lectures by Dr. Johannes Tautz
Spring Valley, NY Easter 1982
Published by the Council of the Pedagogical
Section in North America
If this is already readily available, please
let me know. If it is online, great! Please tell me where and
I won't have to do all that typing. If you already have it -
please look at it again and then tell me that Rudolf Steiner
wasn't political and that the Waldorf Schools weren't politically
motivated!
: ) Christine
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