Marc Anthony and Rudolf Steiner


From: holderlin66
Date: Sun Mar 7, 2004 8:44 pm
Subject: Marc Anthony and Rudolf Steiner

So let me start this off with a recent quote.

" Mr. Bush is waving the bloody shirt, the way Shakespeare has Mark Antony hold up the murdered Caesar's bloody toga to inflame the Romans against the assassins. The advertisement is not so much an argument as an emotional appeal -- the sight of the wreckage will make voters recall how vulnerable they felt after the attack and plays into the president's fear-based campaign strategy. It also serves to shift the debate from Democratic issues like health care and jobs to national security, which Mr. Bush sees as his strongest suit.

Well, all's fair in love and politics -- if Mr. Bush wants to run as a war president, let's discuss his performance. How could we have blown our chance to kill Osama bin Laden at Tora Bora? If, as the president has acknowledged, Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with 9/11, why did we invade Iraq? Why does Saudi Arabia, home of 15 of 19 hijackers, Osama bin Laden and most of his money, continue to enjoy a free pass? Why, when all our intelligence services said there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, did the president invade anyway?"

Bradford continues;

It is a delusion to think that we are not in a retrograde pass over the darkest sphere of the Hitler 1933, and Weimar days. Jupiter is very close now, the closest. For 12 years Hitler was able to imprint and humanity itself wrought the most devastating descent into the abyss that had ever occurred in historical record. The whole 12 years were a complete pattern and imprinted stitch into the seam of the Time and the karma of the world. We dropped into a layer of horror, Ash, and human catastrophy never before seen, but perhaps imagined.

Roman Imperialism and U.S. Imperialism has arisen again as a retrograde pull again, towards this dark abyss that the Nazis offered to humanity. We have looked at what Dr. Steiner offered humanity and any sane person, can understand real history enough to see that the full research and universal beauty of the I AM of mankind could have been the magnificent gift of German Thinking. Instead, Germany, like everyone who preaches antisemitism and racism, once more, with retrograde resurfacing, offers the same choice, either in favor of the I AM culture of Michael and against the barbarity of racism; or falling into the menace that the U.S. now represents to the world. An ugly Orwellian nightmare. Serious is as serious does.

"Appendix II (from Rudolf Steiner 1910/1971: 75 -6)

[There is] for example a point or center of cosmic influence situated in the interior of Africa. At this center are active all those terrestrial forces emanating from the soil which can influence man especially during his childhood. Later on their influence diminishes; man is less subject to these forces. Nevertheless their formative influence makes a powerful impression upon him. The locality where people live exercises its most potent influence in early childhood and thereby determines for their whole life those who are completely dependent on these forces, so that the particular locality impresses the characteristics of their early childhood permanently upon them. This is more or less typical of all those who, in respect to their racial character, are determined by the etheric formative forces of the earth in the neighborhood of that local locality.

The black or Negro race is substantially determined by these childhood characteristics. If we now cross over to Asia, we find a point or center where the formative forces of the earth impress permanently on man the particular characteristics of later youth or adolescence and determine his racial character. Such races are the yellow and brown races of our time. If we continue northward and then turn in a westerly direction towards Europe, a third point or center is reached which permanently impresses upon man the characteristics of his adult life.

In this way man is determined by the etheric forces emanating from the earth. When we look more closely into these separate points or centers we find that they follow a line which takes an unusual direction. These centers still exist today. The center in Africa corresponds to those terrestrial forces which imprint on man the characteristics of early childhood; the center in Asia corresponds to those which give man the characteristics of youth, and the corresponding center in Europe imprints upon man the characteristics of maturity. This is a simple universal law. Since all men in their different incarnations pass through the various races the claim that the European is superior to the black and yellow races has no real validity."

Bradford sums up some ingredients in the mix;

While our time lives in potent racial phrases, acute sensitivity to racial bias and discrimination, and highly charged ethnic accusations, it is clearly understandable given the mega implosion of evil that impacted the 20th century and began spreading like a plague out of Weimar in 1933.

The issue of the most sinister, terrifying, ethnic cleansing has branded the motives of any human being who ever attempted to give opinion on the subject of race, on, before or after 1933. A collision, a train wreck that like the efficient movement of a spider, predatorily saw the area of Racial Ethics as the whole vital link in a matrix that went right back to the Christ Event.

This THING IN MEN demonically pounced with glee and horrific human intelligence on the weak Darwinian attributes of Race we had arrived at. America had led the way in Ethnic Cleansing of the Native Americans and enslavement of the Afro-Americans. Nothing in human imagination or comment could forsee that human beings would put Industrial efficiency of a nation into motion with such coldness as that of "The Final Solution". But America had already tested such atrocities out on the Native Americans.

But the intersection of this horrific concept and the burning animosity that marked the division of intense beings, outriders and aliens to the Logos System we inhabit, struck with a vengence that dwarfed human understanding. It still dwarfs human understanding. It still is beyond human comprehension. It is beyond human comprehension because we remain so stingily and miserly caught in the failed educational mission of the culture of the I AM. This failure has forced us into a critical 5th Post Atlantean sickness in all layers of culture.

We imagine we have come along way with our understanding of racial prejudice due in part to Dylan-MoTown and the Beatles and all the related events of the 1960's. After all, didn't we have a sexual revolution? In America the KKK and the Civil Rights Movement along with the Emancipation Proclamation allowed us to pat ourselves on the back as if we had come a long way. It is childs play, immature and unworthy of the impact and force of understanding exactly what struck the human race in all its fury and intensity as 1933 dawned. We cower from this self-observation and wish to hypnotize ourselves into another Bush term in office. Many do not realize how the total moral fabric of each human soul caused the events of Germany and can very easily cause a deepening and numbing further development of what transpired with the Germans.

It is at this critical juncture where the potent worlds of Man and Gods and our mental ability to extend our reason to see what just hit us, mostly falls apart in cowardice. It has remained in failure mode and some seek to blame and find fault with Steiner as part of the problem. But this problem appeared vividy to Dr. Steiner in the 1880's. Indeed the friction of the problem was a matter of preparation of Consciousness which humanity, even to the present moment continues to fail and get a failing grade and evaluation for, as to what maturity of insight is needed if we wish, not to repeat the catastrophes of the 19th and 20th century. Is it the wonderful universal depth of the I AM or numbed political stupidity driven by Ahrimanic instincts?

Band-Aids on racism and antisemitism were not the band-aids Steiner applied. He supplied a vast picture of human spiritual history. He centered the I AM and all that the I AM is in the human being, which, what maybe 30 people on this planet gave a shit about?, Steiner centered his insights on the cognitive core in the thinking experience of humanity. Along with this Steiner detailed wide Race and Consciousness developments and brought a core gift of psychology to the highest level of intensity, under the heading, Man is a Reincarnating Being and The Karma Lectures. Nothing before or since ancient India has matched Steiner's contribution and nothing, has so far, so stumbled against the impact of another Cosmic force.

There is not but Several thousand people on the planet who would get a passing grade to say that they grasp why the events of Nazi Germany arose and how this hangs together with an all out attack on the human spiritual core, all the way up to the A-Bomb and right into the field of cloning and genetics circa 1998. For 99% of every one of the thinking human beings on this planet, nothing, absolutely nothing as cohesive as Steiner's work has ever been attempted. Merely by flailing our limbs and calling things Racist fails again to see what is at stake here. But of course it is not just Racism, it is severe psychological and medical weapons, plague, technology and infected human will that gather again into a storm.

Sure and indeed, bit by bit we legislate Rights. But it is a candid admission that neither the U.N. with all its collection of different cultures have been able to assemble a peaceful doctrine of the massive Races, Languages and different peoples over the world and the U.S. has become merely another looming example of our misunderstanding of exactly what happened in 1933. Meanwhile we merely indicate that 1998 revealed the fulfillment of mighty science focuses that can steal the very Stars and Karma from out from under humanity, if we take another wrong turn.

It has only been the sparks of those individuals, who in their own souls, have weighed the issues of Civil Rights and arrived at a feeble understanding of how magnificent is the Rainbow of humanity that have made a difference with their death, their deaths! Those who arrive at such a Rainbow generosity of spirit are still shouted down as Liberal air heads. This serves to prove again and again, that even with the gift of having a clear vision of the Origin of the Human Race, it is still human beings, in their narrow I AM's that fail to understand, in any capacity just what WE ARE, or if the opening of the John Gospel contains any truth.

We can anger ourselves with Steiner's role in this whole business. We could praise Evil for forcing us to come to the feeble Civil Rights and Global and Ethnic Rights we have arrived at so far. But who wants to continue to press our intelligence against instinct, nightmare, immaturity, KKK, nationalism or pathetic patriotism and force fences around certain protected "Religions" based on blood. Blood, blood, blood and claims that we are this or that Race, was the very error in thinking that a mighty thrust from a cosmic Being, revealed to us. It was nightmare we were engulfed in and we have progressed inches since then. Inches.

The above quote near the top of the list, from Appendix II reveals a brief sketch of the Etheric Earth conditions. Steiner like any scientist was advancing in the most profound area of human intelligence but we haven't even been mature enough to embrace the Science of the Spirit and the deep roots of the structure of the human being. It isn't that others weren't fighting there along side Dr. Steiner, but it was Steiner that Shouldered the foundations on which Spiritual Science rests.

Yes, he can be blamed for what came out of his mouth. But what can we be blamed for? This is the question. Have we in anyway fathomed what Steiner offered the world? Have we understood in any way what type of Mano a Mano Alien to Human confrontation was evoked? Such sober and feeble thinking, and we pat ourselves on the back. Dare we attempt to measure what Steiner offered and what hundreds of others still offer? No. Because we think we have discovered the key to Race and antisemitism.

So how many I AM's have benefited by either Waldorf Schools, Steiner's contributions and how deep does such vision of the core of immortality go with Steiner? With us? It is the deepest core that has ever been drilled into our thick skulls and it has done nothing except to those souls who have journeyed with Spiritual Science into the core of the mystery of Humanity. We, big WE tossed this gift away when the big bad wolf in Hitler's clothing came a knocking. We do it every day, we betray ourselves every day and pat ourselves on our backs for our great liberal and advanced thinking. The U.S. is currently the worst betrayer in the world.

Were Beings terrified that we would understand and grasp Spiritual Science and the I AM? The Beings I am speaking about were so terrified that they took an all out assault on humanity. Humanity still does not know what hit them. Humanity has no idea how to defend itself because it does not understand the contents of its own psychology. Steiner presented the most advanced cohesive psychology that has ever been outlined. I take absolute opposition to any consideration that Steiner's contributions are not cut from whole cloth. They are a Totality and a Whole and his work was aimed at what little core of wholeness exists in, WE the remaining cowards who cannot face ourselves, either the brightness of our I AM's or the shadows that whisper such lies.

Once again there was a train wreck, a collision of Karmic forces and a frontal attack in the wills of men that produced the most terrifying insight into the nature of the hidden forces in the human being, that we all stand back, now, distant from the shattering events, with our kids gloves on, pointing fingers at each other. Steiner did not skimp, slant or attempt to muffle his voice. Steiner was working directly, with fully wakened consciousness with the Gods themselves. He knew, and perhaps out of two dozen human beings, knew just what devilment humanity was up against. We don't have enough sincere people on the planet to understand "The Gods" let alone the opportunities of our own human mission.

Now at this point I would look at Jack Nicholson in "A Few Good Men". Yes, "we wanted Steiner on that Wall for us, We needed Steiner facing the Threshold for us" and we have proven that we cannot even look into ourselves for fear of what we see. If it is the foundational, far above Hegel and Darwin's insights into races, or if it is the line of heredity and the contributions that made up the landing of an Elohim in humaniites midst, we cannot, have not, and continue to fail to meet our own spiritual criteria. And we blame the messenger. We always blame the messenger.

I don't care what the Dutch have investigated. I am sorry that single I AM Waldorf Teachers and humans have stubbed their toes on Steiner's investigations into the global and flesh and bone characteristics of Etheric and Spiritual Racial patterns. At least they tried. At least they attempted it. At least Peter presents his own opinion so that it is clearly visible for what it is.

Ours, ours is the selfish Politcally Correct quaint phrasing and we faced an Alien in our Wills that couldn't even concern itself with our petty political Correctness. The Alien beast awoke and we scurried away. The Alien beast awoke and it came out of peoples mouths. The Alien beast awoke and it was thought by men. Men have neither comprehended the Alien Beast hidden in themselves nor have they understand the opening of the Gospel of St. John. Humanity cannot understand Principalities and Powers, it gawks, bawks and sputters at the U.N. and yet from some idiot in the White House we hear "Evil Doers". Seeing our President is like looking at walking plugged up toilet full of general American nonsense.

Apply to yourself the Beings that met Jesus in the desert and place the opening of the Gospel of St. John as a match to see if mankind comprehended what happened to them when 1933 began to unfold. All we have done is scorn the giver of gifts, just as we glibbly crucified a God on Golgotha. It is the way of humanity. We are cowards and any courage that has come in the form of Spiritual Science remains viciously opposed and remains under cowardly human attack because we cannot face our true positon. Yet for this, at least the argument is there for many to see.

We, we must ever be in the Marc Anthony position. The Judas Bargain. WE are, as the song goes, "Caught in the Devil's Bargain" but we are too damn immature and too cowardly to see just what the I AM means to the striving of Earth. This dear friends is a typical 5th Post Atlantean confrontation and gladly, thank our lucky stars, we are in it and Peter is helping. For the record, Steiner has no need to apologize for anything nor does any Anthro need to bullied and badgered into admiting Steiner meant anything to do with racism. We come not to bury Dr. Steiner, but to Praise his ever noble gifts to humanity. We come to Praise Peter and Dan and Diana for sincerly revealing how distorted they still are. This is all good for it forces us to produce good things.

ANTONY Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears;
I come to bury STEINER, not to praise him.
The evil that men do lives after them;
The good is oft interred with their bones;
So let it be with STEINER. The noble Brutus
Hath told you STEINER was ambitious:
If it were so, it was a grievous fault,
And grievously hath STEINER answer'd it.
Here, under leave of Brutus and the rest--
For Brutus is an honourable man;
So are they all, all honourable men--
Come I to speak in STEINER'S funeral.
He was my friend, faithful and just to me:
But Brutus says he was ambitious;
And Brutus is an honourable man.
He hath brought many captives home to MICHAEL'S HALL
Whose ransoms did the general coffers fill:
Did this in STEINER seem ambitious?
When that the poor have cried, STEINER hath wept:
Ambition should be made of sterner stuff:
Yet Brutus says he was ambitious;
And Brutus is an honourable man.
You all did see that on the Lupercal
I thrice presented him a kingly crown,
Which he did thrice refuse: was this ambition?
Yet Brutus says he was ambitious;
And, sure, he is an honourable man.
I speak not to disprove what Brutus spoke,
But here I am to speak what I do know.
You all did love him once, not without cause:
What cause withholds you then, to mourn for him?
O judgment! thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason. Bear with me;
My heart is in the coffin there with STEINER,
And I must pause till it come back to me.



From: holderlin66
Date: Mon Mar 8, 2004 7:55 am
Subject: Re: Marc Anthony and Rudolf Steiner

holderlin66 wrote:

The Alien beast awoke and we scurried away. The Alien beast awoke and it came out of peoples mouths. The Alien beast awoke and it was thought by men. Men have neither comprehended the Alien Beast hidden in themselves nor have they understand the opening of the Gospel of St. John. Humanity cannot understand Principalities and Powers, it gawks, bawks and sputters at the U.N. and yet from some idiot in the White House we hear "Evil Doers". Seeing our President is like looking at walking plugged up toilet full of general American nonsense.

Apply to yourself the Beings that met Jesus in the desert and place the opening of the Gospel of St. John as a match to see if mankind comprehended what happened to them when 1933 began to unfold.

Bradford Adds to Tarjei and "John Opener":

In the beginning was also the Alien Beast, and the Alien Beast was not with God, and the Alien Beast shunned the Word of the Seraphim, Cherubim and Thrones.

2 The LOGOS was in the beginning with the Thrones. But the Alien beast was an outrider and exiled by the Gods that made man in their image.

3 All things were made by the mighty Logos born from the Seraphim; and without the Thrones, Cherubim and Seraphim was not any thing made that was made. Matter was contracted and death was contracted to mix the Logos Spirit and Phantom with the Alien Beast copies. The Alien Beast had the skill of mimicking the Mighty Logos Word Bearer.

4 In The Alien Beast was anti-life; with the Alien Beast darkness and confusion dwelt in the minds of men.

5 And the Logos prevailed over Ahrimanic darkness; and the Ahrimanic darkness understood that men comprehended it not.

6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. There was another Man named Nietzsche who was crucified by the Alien Beast and mouthed, "God is Dead!" and this appealed to men.

7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. Nietzsche also came as a witness to the Darkness so that all men would be confused as to which side was Light and which side was Darkness.

8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. Nietzsche was a Germanic Thinker who was chosen to bear witness to the Darkness and be its first prophet.

9 That the Logos of the I AM was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. That Ahriman bore the false instincts that darken every man that cometh into the world and clouds the glory of the I AM.

10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. Ahriman clawed his way into human consciousness and human beings didn't know what hit em'. Ahriman mimicked the i am and men lost the power of discernment.

11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. Ahriman found a home in humans and humans received him and grew mighty with intincts and cunning to mock the Logos and the True I AM.

12 But as many as received the I AM, to them the Logos gave power to grow their higher selves, even to them that believe in the Immortal I AM gave he humble strength in time of need: But As many received the darkness of instinct and cunning, Ahriman gave them the spin and manipulation of the darkness in men. And those that consciously call Ahrman their god, quicken the extinction of humanity.

13 Conscious Initiates, were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. And Ahriman called forth the cloned form to sever men from the Immortal Logos and sever the Logos from Man.

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld the Logos glory, the Logos as of the only begotten of the mighty Seraphim, Cherubim and Thrones,) full of grace and truth and all that humanity contains. And Ahriman made his kingdom in the minds of men. And when it was done, he appeared in the flesh and this Alien Beast walked disguised among men who had willed him to break down the Logos Ordering of the I AM through cunning and instinct. And men received him as a God and began dismantling Matter and removing Man.


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